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Title: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: Keith on October 02, 2009, 05:44:33 PM
Our Big Enchilada package has been well received with MSM drivers, offering a complete package to maximize the output of the stock turbo. But not everyone is able or willing to go to an aftermarket ECU. So we've listened to your requests and put together the Little Enchilada.

The Little Enchilada includes:
FM complete intake kit for stock ECU (http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=4536&parentid=68&stocknumber=05-29121)
FM downpipe and free-flow catalytic converter (http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=4536&parentid=68&stocknumber=06-58300)
FM exhaust and midpipe (http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=4536&parentid=68&stocknumber=06-58305)
FM intercooler upgrade (http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=4536&parentid=68&stocknumber=22-35000)

Basically, it's the first four steps of our MSM upgrade guide (http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/MSM_upgrades.php). The result is 200 horsepower at the rear wheels.

The normal retail price for this combination comes to $2044. The Little Enchilada package is $1795. For that, you'll get a complete collection of parts designed to work together and bump your rear wheel horsepower by 30% while saving $249.

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Now, the fine print. We used to offer a "completion bonus" for the Big Enchilada where we would take $248 off the final bill when you purchased the last of the parts for that kit. Now that we've introduced the Little Enchilada, we're removing the completion bonus. You still end up saving the same amount of money if you build a Big Enchilada piece by piece, you just save it earlier. And of course, we'll still offer the complete Big Enchilada where you'll save around $500 by buying everything at once.

However, to keep it fair to our existing customers, we will still offer a completion bonus to anyone who purchased MSM parts before October 1, 2009. We don't want to change the rules partway through! The change will only affect those who hadn't started to build their Big Enchiladas.

The Little Enchilada is a complete package. While you can buy the parts individually, there is no discount for doing so and no substitutions. It's not on our website yet, but it will be soon.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: travesty on October 02, 2009, 05:58:02 PM
Just ordered all of these parts seperately two weeks ago, wish I would have known about this announcement. Hope someone else can enjoy it. Good deal here.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: apagios on October 02, 2009, 08:20:40 PM
Awesome Keith, Thank You!   ;D


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: CobaltFire on October 03, 2009, 12:16:57 AM
Great move Kieth! 

Too bad I already bought most of it.   ;D


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: schmoo on October 03, 2009, 01:14:32 AM
Great move FM!


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: vavet on October 06, 2009, 05:02:04 PM
Does this discount only apply if I buy everything at once or can I buy individual items and get a discount on the last item?


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: Keith on October 06, 2009, 05:45:29 PM
This discount only applies if you buy everything at once, sorry.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: Keith on October 16, 2009, 11:26:01 PM
The Little Enchilada is now on the Flyin' Miata website (http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=4536&parentid=0&stocknumber=22-10005).


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: scolazz on December 02, 2009, 02:17:00 AM
Good god, I want this so bad. Anyone have $2k to spare? :)


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: peicomputerguy on March 26, 2010, 03:19:58 PM
Hello F.M,. currently does The Little Enchilada include everything that is in the Mazdaspeed complete intake kit?  The Little Enchilada makes no mention of the O2 signal modifier.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: Keith on March 26, 2010, 03:26:26 PM
The O2 signal modifier is part of the complete intake kit, and the Little Enchilada includes the complete intake kit, that's why we don't mention it specifically. But that's also the case with the bypass valve, so you're right, it's unclear. I'll fix that to avoid future confusion.

Yes, the O2 signal modifier is included.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: peicomputerguy on March 26, 2010, 03:55:17 PM
Thanks for clearing that up Keith, guess I will switch to package then rather than just the intake kit.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: DDLexus on February 28, 2012, 05:22:31 PM
After buying the Little Enchilada, what would you suggest...

In order to minimize the frustrations associated with the downpipe installation, would you recommend removing all the stock intake components first, then work on the exhaust system, and then return to the intake side of the project. I was figuring that the added space in the engine bay might help when tackling those hard to reach bolts that mount the downpipe to the turbo... Thoughts?


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: Maduh on February 28, 2012, 06:56:06 PM
After buying the Little Enchilada, what would you suggest...

In order to minimize the frustrations associated with the downpipe installation, would you recommend removing all the stock intake components first, then work on the exhaust system, and then return to the intake side of the project. I was figuring that the added space in the engine bay might help when tackling those hard to reach bolts that mount the downpipe to the turbo... Thoughts?

I was able to get too all 3 bolts from the under side of the car when installing my downpipe. Might be more difficult if you don't have a few swivel heads and extensions.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: Keith on February 28, 2012, 10:12:23 PM
I don't think it's possible to reach them from above. So it doesn't really matter what you do with the intake when it comes to a downpipe installation.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: miatamanone on March 23, 2012, 04:07:25 PM
Keith    Has anyone documented a 0 to 60 time and quarter mile time with Little Enchilada Installed on an MSM? I love numbers.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: cDc_Geo on March 23, 2012, 05:12:37 PM
My guess is that it would be something similar to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trP5NBK2ihQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trP5NBK2ihQ)

In my opinion, there are just too many factors to get straight results.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: Keith on March 23, 2012, 10:45:26 PM
Nobody has documented it as far as I know.

Did you know that the big three car magazines don't calculate 0-60 the same way? C&D and R&T subtract approx. 0.3 seconds for rollout - basically, they ignore the first foot. Automobile doesn't. So, the same car, tested by the same driver, on the same day, etc, etc would give different numbers depending on which magazine is publishing the test.

So yeah, it's a hard one to duplicate with any real accuracy.

A good article by Dan Edmunds (a Miata racer, he's one of us) about this sort of thing: http://www.insideline.com/features/how-we-test-cars-and-trucks.html


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: miatamanone on March 30, 2012, 04:41:12 PM
Thanks Keith for the link to the article on 0-60 timing of cars.

Flyin Miata is the only aftermarket company I deal with and I have 3 Miatas. All parts are superb.

Keep up the great Research and Development Work. It is your lifeblood. drivingss


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: SJMSM on May 01, 2013, 03:11:09 PM
I use a GTimer, which I realize isn't Perfect, but I did run 0-60 and quarter mile times before and after LE installation. I used the exact same road for the times, but runs before LE were done on a 70 degree day, whereas times after LE were run on an 85 degree day. I also probably came out of the hole a little harder with the first times. I have gotten where I don't particularly enjoy abusing my car.

Before LE install:
0-60=5.92 sec.
1/4 mile=14.62@93 mph

After LE instal:
0-60=5.55 sec.
1/4 mile=14.30 sec.@93mph

I really think that if I had made a few more runs with the LE as I did before the LE, that I could probably shave a couple of tenths off the times. A cold day might produce some really great times.
In all, I am very satisfied with performance with the Little Enchilada. Throttle response is so much better. I am not into drag racing anyway.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: Laguna1 on August 22, 2015, 06:30:55 PM
Any idea of how loud this kit makes the MSM? Track has 90dB limit. There are work arounds but just wondering.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on August 22, 2015, 06:43:50 PM
Wow, 90???  Really???  That's pretty quiet.  The exhaust isn't too loud but I'm not sure it will pass 90.  Where do they measure and how??

Our track has a stationary meter about 30' off the edge of the track about 2/3's of the way down the straight.  Joe and I never had any issues on DB but our limit is much higher at 103.



Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: magnus on August 22, 2015, 07:17:26 PM
Any idea of how loud this kit makes the MSM? Track has 90dB limit. There are work arounds but just wondering.

I run at Laguna Seca with my full FM exhaust without issue. I think the limit was 91 or 92 my last time out but you should be okay.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: magnus on August 22, 2015, 07:20:58 PM
Wow, 90???  Really???  That's pretty quiet.  The exhaust isn't too loud but I'm not sure it will pass 90.  Where do they measure and how??

Our track has a stationary meter about 30' off the edge of the track about 2/3's of the way down the straight.  Joe and I never had any issues on DB but our limit is much higher at 103.



I'm assuming he is speaking about Laguna Seca. Thanks to the rich neighbors and the growth of Monterey toward the track, the sound is limited to 90dB for most private track days. Sound is measured on the run out of turn 5.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on August 22, 2015, 07:38:09 PM
One of the "tricks" used at our track is to use a turn down pipe on the exhaust tip and aim the sound away from the meter.  Even though this seems like cheating in reality it's not since the meter is on the outboard side of the track and so are the people affected by the sound.  If the sound is aimed inboard you are bothering them less too.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: Laguna1 on August 23, 2015, 01:11:39 AM
Cool thanks Magnus, info I needed! From my understanding it cost $$ to go above 90dB

Copy that SilverMiataRacer, is the work around I was speaking of.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: millsj on August 23, 2015, 03:46:30 AM
Or make the sound meter a "shift" point.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: Lobo on April 25, 2016, 03:18:42 AM
Here is the calculator I use for 0-60 times. Saves wear and tear, tickets and other things.

http://www.060calculator.com/

I would be interested to hear from Keith what the flywheel hp is on a LE. That is the number to put in first. Weight = 2500, RWD, Manual.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: twobone on April 25, 2016, 01:59:09 PM
I made the decision to keep the rear muffler and get the FM downpipe for the exhaust part of the MSM upgrade.  I still get the wonderful boost sounds but without worrying about exhaust noise.  It makes my car a bit a Q-ship :police: 

From what I've read I probably didnt give up any measurable HP as the major gains are from the DP.


Title: Re: Meet the Little Enchilada.
Post by: Keith on April 28, 2016, 07:00:35 PM
I would be interested to hear from Keith what the flywheel hp is on a LE. That is the number to put in first. Weight = 2500, RWD, Manual.

We have never done any flywheel testing. A conservative estimate would be around 225 at the flywheel based on the change in wheel hp and Mazda's rating. Those who are looking to inflate their claims will come up with a higher number by using percentages of drivetrain loss.

Twobone, you will have given up measurable hp, probably mostly at lower RPM as the turbo works to overcome that greater restriction. But you're right, the downpipe has a bigger effect.


Title: Re:
Post by: barmato on April 29, 2016, 12:37:54 AM
I found that my boost was falling off more on top end when i had the FM downpipe with the stock cat back vs a full system.  I was down to around 8psi at 7k vs closer to 10psi with the full system.  My boost controller was set around 13psi but the little IHI just couldn't keep up.