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Title: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on February 07, 2014, 05:01:53 PM
So I got this car in 2009. I did the FM boltons for a while but the stock ECU never did it for me. I got the BEGi reflash to help, which worked in some ways. Then I got a knock from the motor, tore down, and knew I was in for it. The motor was rebuilt and the car was tuned with Megasquirt 2, but after 1000 miles or so it developed another tick. We were sure it was in the head, but it was actually rod #1, should have torn it down sooner. Motor had to come apart again and here I am, improving on the things I missed in rebuild 1 like the coolant reroute, new turbo, etc. Here's a list of everything on the car now, a lot of money, time, thought, and research. Big thanks to everyone here for helping me make good decisions along the way even though I am not having the best luck.

Engine
BP4W Mazdaspeed .020 over
BP4W ported head
Eagle H-Beam Rods
Wiseco 83.5mm 8.5:1 Pistons
Boundary Engineering Street/Strip oil pump
SuperMiata harmonic damper
ARP head/main studs
ACL Race bearings
Supertech Valve Spring kit
VICS delete

Cooling
TrackSpeedEngineering crossflow radiator
FlyinMiata coolant re-route
FlyinMiata Oil cooler kit
Fab9Tuning 550HP Intercooler
SPAL 14” curved fan
DeRale PS cooler
GarageStar radiator cowl

Turbo
ARTech custom top-mount manifold
Swaintech White Lightning manifold coating
ARTech 3” v-band downpipe catless
BorgWarner EFR6258 turbo
CorkSport 80mm Catback
Copper locking hardware
Nissan T25 locking tabs
AN-4 feed
AN-10 drain

Drivetrain
Competition 13lb flywheel
FlyinMiata Stage2 clutch kit
PuddyMod Stage2 differential (cryo treated option)
Mazda “Aussie” 3.63 ring and pinion
Energy Differential mounts
SuperMiata SS Clutch line
MiataRoadster SS kit
Mazdaspeed competiton motor mounts

Electronics
Megasquirt 2xtra
Fab9Tuning COP kit
EFR6258 Boost controller
AEM UEGO WBo2
Autometer Boost gauge
FuelInjectorClinic 775cc ev14 injectors
Walbro 255lph pump
MiataRoadster Oil pressure sender

Suspension
Tein FLEX 7kg/6kg Coilovers
RacingBeat 1.125” front sway bar
RacingBeat sway reinforcement kit
RacingBeat adjustable sway links
Hawk HPS pads
SuperMiata SS Brake lines
HardDog Hardcore Double Diagonal Rollbar

Wheels and Tires
949Racing 6UL gen3 15x9 Nicke
225/45/R15 Hankook Ventus RS3 tires
Forged lugs

Here it is as of now, I'll keep this updated.
(http://i.imgur.com/aj94XTv.jpg?1)


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: Preluding on February 07, 2014, 07:06:17 PM
Look forward to seeing this as I've got a similiar build (different hotside) on the go right now.



Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: yenadar on February 07, 2014, 08:04:09 PM
Looking a bit more serious than what I saw the other day! Having the turbo mounted will have that effect :)


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on February 07, 2014, 08:15:08 PM
I must say every time I look at it I'm so glad I went top mount vs side or bottom. From a simply aesthetic perspective. I don't know how different it would run with a bottm mount. I assume more spool but less drool


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: byrdmen on February 08, 2014, 12:27:48 PM
You have probably already looked into it, but have you talked to Keith about the suitability of the coolant reroute on an MSM engine?


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Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on February 08, 2014, 05:08:15 PM
You have probably already looked into it, but have you talked to Keith about the suitability of the coolant reroute on an MSM engine?


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Just needs the correct head gasket. Stock msm head gasket with a reroute is a huge problem.

Made manifold to turbo studs. Used some from a 5.4l expedition and cut to size. Grade 8 studs and will be locked with oval pinched copper nuts and Nissan locking tabs


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on February 11, 2014, 02:19:24 PM
Finally got my 12mm banjo to 8mm hose fitting so now we can make and route the coolant lines. I am not sure if I want to get fire sleeves for these or not. It's not going to be AN line.

Still need to wire in those FAB9 coilpacks.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: MSMzer04 on February 12, 2014, 06:00:37 AM
In for updates! Damn, this thread looks hard core  :mrgreen:


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: KingSpeed on February 12, 2014, 06:06:17 AM
Finally got my 12mm banjo to 8mm hose fitting so now we can make and route the coolant lines. I am not sure if I want to get fire sleeves for these or not. It's not going to be AN line.

Still need to wire in those FAB9 coilpacks.

If it is going to be exposed to high heat which I assume it will be, get those fire sleeves or some kind of high temp heat reflective sleeve. 


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: Preluding on February 12, 2014, 03:07:42 PM
How are you running your -10an drain line to the stock pan?? 

Bolt on adapter or are you welding a bung??


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on February 13, 2014, 03:29:29 AM
Cut the stock hard line. Basically from the bottom up its

Stock flange pointing up
Small collar on that to point away from motor
An10 weld on bung
An10 to hose 45* swivel fitting

I should have taken a pic. It's bolted up now. I might still be able to get in there. The ID of the stock flange is .1 smaller than an10 but we ground it out some to promote healthy consistent drain.

King speed, we were able to reuse one of the stock fiberglass heat sleeves which worked out to be perfect length for my water return. However I still need to sleeve my water feed, the heater hoses coming into the cabin, as well as the hard lines coming from the brake master cylinder. Any suggestions? I have fiberglass exhaust wrap I can use on the heater hoses, but not sure what's good for the water feed (about 2 feet)

Did get the down pipe on
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/22D23B74-049E-4773-AC50-5232DA1C4E6E_zpsmruteats.jpg)

Also tucked away a lot of unused wires and connectors. Removed old brackets and made room in the bay for nothing at all. I just couldn't stand the clutter on the passengers side. Also painted my coolant overflow tank flat black with a little window stripe to see coolant level. Didn't get a pic however


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on February 18, 2014, 03:25:34 AM
My guy made a bracket for the fab9 module

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/27E237A0-FA42-4DA8-81C3-145D83E947FC_zpsvkkiw99p.jpg)

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/58CBFEA4-83EC-4F54-8067-BA2C4804FADE_zpsmcnaslo1.jpg)

Nice and hidden :-)


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on February 19, 2014, 02:59:45 PM
Got some things done. I got a cheapie DeRale PS cooler. My guy made a nice bracket.

step 1
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/58B5851C-34D8-4E01-AD15-6DA6F790EFF8_zpshkojjxoe.png)

step 2
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/B11178A7-CC6D-422A-BF41-D824D69BDDF9_zpsserztanv.png)

step 3
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/9B04D8BC-BE94-409B-A508-3CE019CF16BB_zpspbdmhbzw.png)

He also made a little holder for the coolant re-route to keep it curved smoothly and away from the manifold. You can also see the EGR blockoff plates he made. We also removed the little fuel damper in the bottom of this pic. Left the one on the fuel rail, heard 2 aren't very necessary. If I'm wrong, correct me and I'll put it back in.
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/47EE54B9-3FB7-4635-B04A-B95C4750EFDD_zpsmauziei7.jpg)

Now everywhere back here I need sleeving or fire hose or a shield of some kind, there are brake and water lines dangerously close to the hot exhaust.
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/AF8D0EF6-2122-4F4A-ADEB-25D35ADB42F6_zpshh8320sk.jpg)

Updated shot of the bay.
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/18c48036-6398-4d8e-a5a2-7a90b0c075b8_zps87882d25.jpg)
By comparison here it is the day I picked it up
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/229565_503400258017_7548_n.jpg)


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on February 20, 2014, 01:58:43 AM
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/0F5B7D39-ABA2-4775-9133-D3039CE7F864_zpsakeocz7b.jpg)

Here's the heat sleeve we reused on the water return.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on February 22, 2014, 01:21:06 AM
http://youtu.be/G7ZWldb9MY8


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: Preluding on February 24, 2014, 12:56:50 PM
Nice Build and good to see it come together!


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on February 24, 2014, 01:33:05 PM
Thanks dude. I've been watching yours on Instagram. I'm cleanneon98 there


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: Maduh on February 24, 2014, 02:27:31 PM
Dear Alex, As your friend and fellow car enthusiast. Please help the fight against vertical video recording. It's a serious issue and needs to be put to a stop.  :help: Just say no. Say no to George Lucas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt9zSfinwFA

 :mrgreen:


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on February 25, 2014, 01:56:06 PM
Dear Alex, As your friend and fellow car enthusiast. Please help the fight against vertical video recording. It's a serious issue and needs to be put to a stop.  :help: Just say no. Say no to George Lucas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt9zSfinwFA

 :mrgreen:
Lol I was so excited I didn't bother to turn my phone.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: MSpeedM on March 06, 2014, 02:49:36 AM
Any updates? New horizontal vids? This is an interesting build, nice work.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on March 06, 2014, 06:03:46 PM
Here's one of the car running. Mechanic had a lighter standing on the oil cap balanced for quite a while. Not easy to do considering it slopes back and has a slightly domed top

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=500186933425133&set=vb.316504851793343&type=2&theater

Got my catchcan installed

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/094559D5-0293-4B7A-AFAD-DF66BA48E538_zpshfqznnqe.png)

A bit complex but basically vapor comes out of driver's side of valve cover, goes into can, through steel wool, then out of can, through a PCV, and into the intake manifold. The PCV on the passanger's side valve cover now sports a breather.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on March 14, 2014, 08:53:18 PM
Drove it yesterday. Kept stalling in neutral when it got warmed up. Looking at the logs, it seems like the timing is too low which is causing things to get a bit hotter. Combine that with a powerful radiator fan that wants to kill the car when kicking on, and an injector pulsewidth that's too high, we have fouled the plugs in about 4 miles. The car shuts off, and when you go to restart it gives too much fuel and floods it, causing a misfire. Going to see if we can find Copper vs Iridium units to run with the fab9 coils for a bit better reliability.

We changed the timing a bit so now the car stays alive at idle when the fan kicks on. Need to sort out the issue with the plugs however. They were pitch black when we pulled them out, sprayed off with brake cleaner but still idles rough, though a bit better.

Here she is with all the pipes and heat sleeves done. We finally got the bumper and fog lights to fit with the piping after some mods.

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/191286f3b1c80de71129cae989bceef8_zps6367c096.jpg)



Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on March 14, 2014, 10:25:49 PM
So according to the Denso site the plugs I have IK27 are a HEAT RANGE 9 what the?!

FM says "What`s the downside? In theory, more ignition noise in your stereo. We haven`t actually experienced that nor have we received any reports of problems from our customers. But you have been warned. You might also get a little burble at idle. These are a heat range 7 which is great for high power, but are going to be more prone to fouling if the car has starting problems. We used to run #7 plugs in all our turbo cars until a few years ago." They're talking about their NGK V-power Racing plugs, but if a #7 has the disclaimer, I understand why the 9 would be terrible.

So my gugy ordered some IK22 models which are a #7. Ideally I'd like to get the IK20 #6 but the 7 I feel will be a bit better. If not, I'll step down. We're going to change some MS settings before firing them up though. Learning a lot from Maduh's files.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: humming on March 15, 2014, 05:38:24 AM
Is the catch can seeing any real pressure at all? I want to make my own but I wanted to make sure that the material is thick enough if it will see anything much above or below atmospheric. I'll admit I'm not totally familiar with how air flows through the head on this car.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on March 16, 2014, 03:38:07 PM
Is the catch can seeing any real pressure at all? I want to make my own but I wanted to make sure that the material is thick enough if it will see anything much above or below atmospheric. I'll admit I'm not totally familiar with how air flows through the head on this car.
I bought my CNC machined can for $80
Generic catch-cans are available from eBay in all shapes and sizes starting at $20 (thought the cheaper ones sometimes leak). Stuff it full of stainless steel scouring pads and go ham.

I don't know how much actual pressure it's seeing


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on April 15, 2014, 11:44:14 PM
Havent really updated this but the car is home now and runs fine. Just doing some miles on it to get the engine and diff broken in for Ken Hill to tune the car.

It's so tempting to get into boost but I won't do it until its fully tuned. Makes awesome sounds though :)


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: darkcambria on April 16, 2014, 06:50:48 PM
Let me know when you're headed up to see Ken. If I can make it, I'd love to see this car in action.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on April 17, 2014, 03:53:32 AM
May 3rd is the tentative date. I'll most likely be leaving the car with him for a few days.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on April 19, 2014, 09:08:07 PM
Have a small oil leak we are trying to pin down. I'm getting about a silver dollar sized oil mark whenever I drive somewhere and park for a few minutes. I'm not losing enough to affect the dipstick but its definitely coming out of somewhere. Possible culprit is the turbo oil return, RMS, or somewhere else. Shouldn't be hard to track down. We figured out to remove the PCV from the valve cover with the new catch-can, but the whole time we had it set wrong the car was seeing excess crankcase pressure, which I think may have busted the RMS. If we rule everything else out, the trans will come out and well go further. It is what it is, but there's no noises or smoke or anything. All around the pan is dry except for where the back of the oilpan and bellhousing meet.

Wherever its coming from, its hitting the subframe behind the oil pan first, and dripping down from that. I really think RMS.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on April 22, 2014, 12:00:27 AM
Well the leak is coming from the turbo oil return so I'm pretty happy right now. I ordered a new gasket from mazda for $3, but until we install it and I drive more and the leak disappears I'm not saying its found and fixed, there could be another small seep elsewhere.

Also found my front ujoint of the driveshaft falling apart.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: dooderek on April 24, 2014, 01:23:53 AM
oy that coolant return is sketch! personally I would not of routed it that way and if i had too at least wrapped the exhaust with header wrap as well. But ive had a fair amount of bad experience with heat so I am probably being a bit over cautious


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on April 24, 2014, 09:57:51 PM
oy that coolant return is sketch! personally I would not of routed it that way and if i had too at least wrapped the exhaust with header wrap as well. But ive had a fair amount of bad experience with heat so I am probably being a bit over cautious
Which coolant return? The manifold is coated with Swaintech White Lightning which is one of the better coatings out there. The water lines going to the cabin are wrapped in DEI sleeves, as are the brake lines.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on August 13, 2014, 02:28:16 PM
Just a little out of boost driving, light throttle in 3rd, 4th, and 5th

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiIoZuEj5to&list=UUUdl7gp4e-vJJ_FU5iw4pYQ


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: Maduh on August 13, 2014, 04:37:05 PM
Just a little out of boost driving, light throttle in 3rd, 4th, and 5th

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiIoZuEj5to&list=UUUdl7gp4e-vJJ_FU5iw4pYQ

Stop being sucha pussy and give her some go! Your always babying it! Lol I know it's fresh rebuild but come on I wanna hear it scream!


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Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: darkcambria on August 13, 2014, 05:16:11 PM
I look forward to an updated video after the tune!


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on August 13, 2014, 07:54:41 PM
September 8th I'm dropping it off I think I PMed you


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: darkcambria on August 14, 2014, 03:27:55 AM
Yup, I'm going to try to make it up. Too bad it isn't this weekend, I'll be in Sinking Spring for the Duryea hill climb


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on August 16, 2014, 01:16:29 PM
Guy from my neighborhood John Concha will be racing a Ford Fiesta white

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10422332_10202428416619653_8413309924905345924_n.jpg)


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: darkcambria on August 16, 2014, 11:25:29 PM
I saw his car at tech inspection on Friday but I haven't seen him since. Is he still running?


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on August 17, 2014, 03:22:44 PM
Last I saw his facebook he was driving his other car somewhere else so I think he's done. I think it was maybe a one day thing


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: darkcambria on August 18, 2014, 01:59:30 AM
Got to talk to him today, apparently he was working yesterday and couldn't make it. He ran today and did well!


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on August 20, 2014, 01:10:55 PM
Got to talk to him today, apparently he was working yesterday and couldn't make it. He ran today and did well!
Yea he's a really cool guy. He used to race Suzuki Swifts haha same rallycross type of driving. My friend Solomon who does the One Lap of America knows him too, we all live within 2 miles of each other. Let's meet up soon. I'm down even pre-tune, my map is OK for commuting and stuff, just goes to 10:1 AFR once the turbo starts to really spin, and when I go full throttle it sputters due to what I think is fuel overload, sounds like spark blowout but I can't imagine that happening at the boost levels I'm at now (<5psi)


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on October 05, 2014, 12:48:22 AM
I guess I should update this so the information is available for people in the future. The car made 270whp on 13psi, 300whp on 15psi, and 311whp and 285wtq on 17psi. I think the car was just hot after the repeated pulls, maybe I'll put it on another dyno in the future, maybe not.

(http://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/dynos-timesheets-21/124632-built-msm-w-6258-miatadyno_zpsa49f1d04-jpg?dateline=1411999925)



Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on October 15, 2014, 05:10:13 PM
Just 4th gear pull

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcEY5gW9WN0&list=UUUdl7gp4e-vJJ_FU5iw4pYQ


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: thomsoad on October 15, 2014, 05:51:31 PM
Just 4th gear pull

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcEY5gW9WN0&list=UUUdl7gp4e-vJJ_FU5iw4pYQ

Nice pull.
Curious as to what made your check engine come on momentarily


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on October 15, 2014, 05:56:15 PM
That's the immobilizer light which is coming on because he doesn't have a stock ECU anymore.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: thomsoad on October 15, 2014, 06:08:57 PM
That's the immobilizer light which is coming on because he doesn't have a stock ECU anymore.

The immobilizer light is a flashing key.
What Im seeing is the engine light coming on at the end of his hard pull and then turning off.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: darkcambria on October 15, 2014, 06:16:59 PM
I believe MegaSquirt can use the CEL light as a warning for several different factors.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on October 15, 2014, 06:42:41 PM
Using it as a shift light?


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on October 15, 2014, 07:07:11 PM
That's the knock sensor. My tuner spent 3 weeks driving and logging the car and never saw knock. The sensor is just a bit sensitive and is picking up operating noise at those RPM, we have to tweak the settings for it. He said my timing is pretty conservative and fuel is 11-11.5 to redline.

When I take it back to him for the boost by gear we will fix the sensitivity of it. Oil change saturday. Expecting to see very little to no debris on the magnetic drain plug.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: Maduh on October 15, 2014, 07:11:05 PM
On the MS, you can use the CEL to indicate different factors. Quick flashing CEL is knock usually. Longer CEL that stays on for a period of time is usually that your coolant temp is past your designated threshold. You can also set it up for like oil temp/pressure as well.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on October 15, 2014, 08:22:06 PM
It usually comes on at 5500RPM but at certain loads. I find that sometimes it comes on as I am letting off the gas. I will do another log here on Saturday and send it to my tuner, but he monitored everything and put the car through it's paces, I'm sure if there was a possible concern he would have advised me, especially since he knows everything the car has been through and how long it took to put together. He did tell me to take a log just to be sure, but not to worry about leaning on the car and to enjoy it.



Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: Maduh on October 15, 2014, 10:08:19 PM
Your motor/turbo are vastly different than mine. But I'll tell you my car never sees knock. My amateur tuning and I've never created a knock event. I'm not sure the stock knock sensors are consistent remotely on these cars.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on October 15, 2014, 11:32:14 PM
Can you explain the last sentence plz? I am sure at this point our threshold isn't set the same and my motor being forged is louder either way than yours just cause of the looser clearances.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: thomsoad on October 16, 2014, 12:09:01 AM
Can you explain the last sentence plz? I am sure at this point our threshold isn't set the same and my motor being forged is louder either way than yours just cause of the looser clearances.

I will say for what its worth my engine is forged as well and thus far I have not needed to recalibrate the Hydra knock sensor.
Which frankly im very surprised.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on October 18, 2014, 08:25:52 PM
Well we did a log, see timing get pulled 2.5* as soon as CEL comes on, then another 2.5*, and then over the next 1000rpm it brings the timing back .5* at a time.

Sent the log to Ken, he can tell if its bad knock or just the sensor needs to be messed with.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on October 19, 2014, 03:26:37 PM
Good news, he looked at the log and determined the noise in increasing gradually, not suddenly, so it's not knock. We need to get the sensitivity of the sensor correct. All is  thumup


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on October 28, 2014, 01:43:07 AM
1st to 3rd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8a2KrAicLc

3rd and 4th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovoLCtrynLY



Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on October 29, 2014, 03:43:48 AM
Spooling 3rd gear from 2000rpm

http://youtu.be/i9rxpY5IBv8


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on December 15, 2014, 02:29:55 PM
So currently just sitting around for the next few months and creating a wish-list and/or buying parts. I want to get some kind of seat but I'm oddly proportioned.

HDHCDD rollbar.
I'm 5'11"
I have a 32-33" in-seam and waist
Stocks steering wheel (would be willing to change to 350mm or 330mm)
Wide shoulders

What kind of seat can I get that would fit? I'm just banking on someone here being built like me and giving suggestions. I do love the Elise/Exige seats but can't find them anywhere. I did get a ride in an Elise a few years back and I don't remember the seats being bad, though getting in and out was a chore, especially for my friend's 60/yo dad  ;D

Other things, address Intake Manifold and more importantly Throttle Body, re-do some FMIC piping, really really really want some RevLimiter gauges, and need to run back to Ken to tweak the knock sensor sensitivity. I also want to do some stuff with my interior, not sure what yet, but maybe getting some of the trim wrapped or hydrodipped.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: Maduh on December 15, 2014, 02:48:49 PM
As someone who owned elise seats for 2 years... They look and fit awesome. But we're so uncomfortable. If you must have them, get the probax versions from the 2006+ elise. I had the 1st gen ones and they just did nothing for my lower back. My Kirkeys are actually more comfortable.

Not many options for seats. But if money wasn't an option, I would buy 2 of these: http://www.marradind.com/default.asp


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: millsj on December 15, 2014, 07:15:08 PM
FWIW, I had a student at the track this past weekend in an '06 Elise.  I really liked the seats.  They fit me like a glove. I'm 5'6" and a normal build.  The car was a challenge to get in and out of, but I think it was more due to the high and WIDE door sills. 


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on December 15, 2014, 07:21:12 PM
FWIW, I had a student at the track this past weekend in an '06 Elise.  I really liked the seats.  They fit me like a glove. I'm 5'6" and a normal build.  The car was a challenge to get in and out of, but I think it was more due to the high and WIDE door sills. 
High and wide is right. Worst in and out car I've ever been in, with the C4 corvette being right behind.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on January 04, 2015, 03:42:30 PM
Found this in my archives, it's a photo of what a bolt-on MSM puts down on the dyno when the timing is off by 2 teeth. Ah the old days of fail

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/IMAG0247.jpg)



Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on January 04, 2015, 03:43:57 PM
Oh the lucky days of having a car with a non-interference engine to have the clearance left to run with the timing belt 2 teeth off!!!


Title: Re:
Post by: humming on January 04, 2015, 03:46:15 PM
I set my timing the other day... I could understand 1 tooth, but 2? How did you do that?


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on January 04, 2015, 03:46:36 PM
Seriously! It happened on a rainy night when I decided to go try drifting in a parking lot with some buddies. Not only did I fail at drifting, but I stalled the engine during a slide and felt it buck around a bit. I think that may be when the timing jumped because when I pulled into the lot it was running perfectly but as soon as I left, it was funky. I never tried drifting again  :'(


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on January 04, 2015, 03:59:22 PM
Seriously! It happened on a rainy night when I decided to go try drifting in a parking lot with some buddies. Not only did I fail at drifting, but I stalled the engine during a slide and felt it buck around a bit. I think that may be when the timing jumped because when I pulled into the lot it was running perfectly but as soon as I left, it was funky. I never tried drifting again  :'(

Probably the only recorded case of a Miata jumping timing.   ::)  I still have a hard time with it.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on January 04, 2015, 04:08:07 PM
Seriously! It happened on a rainy night when I decided to go try drifting in a parking lot with some buddies. Not only did I fail at drifting, but I stalled the engine during a slide and felt it buck around a bit. I think that may be when the timing jumped because when I pulled into the lot it was running perfectly but as soon as I left, it was funky. I never tried drifting again  :'(

Probably the only recorded case of a Miata jumping timing.   ::)  I still have a hard time with it.
The other thing was about a week prior to this, I had shredded my alternator belt and pieces of it flew all over the place I distinctly remember pulling them from all sorts of odd places. When my mechanic did the timing belt change, he said he found a piece of the alternator belt inside of timing area. Very odd


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on April 17, 2015, 01:04:47 PM
Finally got an updated shot of the engine bay with the new catch-can.

(http://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/media-53/137821-my-msm-finished-dc3b4444-aebd-4b55-8d20-0b27d1068438_zpsrvdpr4cl.jpg?dateline=1429103689)


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on May 27, 2015, 03:40:44 AM
Finally got her on a scale. After the addition of the 50lb? roll bar and larger turbo components, along with weight reduction in form of removal of certain components, trunk gutting, lighter wheels, flywheel, etc. etc. lots of parts that add or remove. Happy with this for the power I am making.

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/BD263B11-CD17-4ACF-B5D7-8CB13B942E35_zpseqijxtbv.jpg)


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on July 23, 2015, 09:32:40 PM
So been getting a few more parts lately

Have a Skunk 2 Throttle Body, still need to port the upper intake manifold and install
Installed GarageStar Door Bushings
Bought 949Racing 70D motor mounts, yet to install (same time as throttle body)
RevLimiter SunStorm gauge faces with custom 7500rpm redline: http://revlimiter.net/store/gauges-sunstorm-nb.php

Also looking at possibly getting seat(s) and a detachable steering wheel. Having a hard time finding bucket seats that are comfortable for me, yet also fit into the NB Tunnel. I don't want a really tight seat since this is a street driven car and I like to be relaxed driving it. I feel if I take it past a certain point, it will be more of a hassle than a joy driving the car. What to do, what to do


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: darkcambria on July 23, 2015, 10:35:46 PM
I can bring down my Ultrashield Rally Sport, that's extremely comfortable. I could sit in that for a long road trip


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on July 23, 2015, 11:05:37 PM
I'd love to try that out. When will you be in the area again? Are we Facebook friends? Let's get in touch next time you're around


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on August 25, 2015, 07:08:07 PM
So a few small updates.

1. GarageStar door bushings installed, see my review. They are just fantastic.

2. Skunk 2 Throttle Body installed, ground out the inside of intake manifold and eliminated the large hump that houses one of the bolts that held the original TB on. Needs some tuning to the IAC because the car idles a bit funny sometimes. Pedal feel is improved, I've recorded better MPG after the new TB, probably due to being able to have finer control over the throttle. Stiffer spring = more resistance = more progressive response. No more light pressure leading to a lot of movement

3. 949Racing 70D mounts installed. Still "breaking them in" though my mechanic said Polyurethane does not get broken in, but we'll see. Initially, they are firmer, and I can hear rattles I did not before. I think some vibration is increased due to the Door Bushings holding the body together better.

Added a new sticker, new TB looks nice as well

(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11148591_703029549317_8379283728306493518_n.jpg?oh=d69e430ec459399120dcac30b83e05ca&oe=5677D5BE)

Tuning refinements happening on the week of September 7th. Also picking up a set of lightly used tires since my RS-3 did not last long under this power level. My buddy has 2 events on these Maxxis Victra RC-1 tires. They are a 245/40-15 size which I know is most ideal on a 15x10 but I will be using them on the 9 for now just to get my feet wet on the track. These will also be used for general around town use in the dry (car sits garaged in rain). If I like the track racing experience which I think I will, look for many more updates on this car over the winter and spring. Plans? Front diffuser, rear wing, hood louvres, and depending if I go to a 15x10, possibly cut fenders. My problem is I'm afraid noone will match the color of the Ti correctly on the flares and I don't want to re-paint the whole car.



Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on September 15, 2015, 03:59:57 AM
So picked it up from the tuner. Feels good except the spark issues. Basically part of it is the COP system itself not being designed for high boost, but another is that we are running it in wasted spark mode. If we wired it sequential we could get a few more PSi but I don't like being at the limit of anything. I want to hopefully create a GM based setup over the winter. Basically it breaks up the spark. Others have reported this issue so the FAB9 setup will be for sale. It would be great for someone with a stock turbo but at this point its not cutting it for me. You can hear it in the speedo video below. Besides that the car pulls hard and feels fantastic! I'll take it back once I get the new coil setup and it should have no issues.

https://youtu.be/46MeP98gEMk

http://youtu.be/QTileixY38Y


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on October 11, 2015, 10:45:48 PM
Got a few new things ordered up, maintenance, and new ignition, as well as some suspension stuff, will update as it comes in :)

Also as I was scrolling photobucket, saw these old shots. Car has been through a lot of stages

Stock photos from the dealer I got it:
(http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/3261/3221/33151610007_original.jpg)

With Joe's Intake:
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/IMAG0966.jpg)

Currently:
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/decad8ba-ced4-4257-94b6-6137b0484ce9_zpsnalrbapx.png)


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on November 05, 2015, 08:59:10 PM
I've been getting busy getting myself ready for next year. I am 100% certain I will be hitting the track, and hopefully more than once. My goal is to get out to at least 5 track days next year (road course, not autocross) to get my feet wet. I've started getting some parts in.

XIDA 700/400 coilovers w/helpers (installing 11/12) removing the Tein FLEX with 392/336 spring rates
Rear hubs and bearings (installing 11/12)
ARP Wheel studs (installing 11/12)

Also ordered 15x10 Tungsten 6ULs +25 and the Singular Motorsports louvres in anodized black. With the announcement of the 245/40/15 Maxxis VR-1 200tw, has pretty much sealed the deal for me to go to the 10" wheel. I plan on keeping the RC-1, but with the VR-1 being a good alternative if I decide to go to a treaded tire, it's a done deal. My only concern is if I will be able to get the ride height I want with the 245/40-15x10 combo (in order to get the alignment I want), but I basically need a 245 for the grip and they do better on a 10" tire, I'll be able to run lower pressures, get more grip, and as some said, better wear. I'll have to figure out the fitment when I get the wheels, I have rolled and pulled fenders which should help, and with stiffer springs, I should be able to go lower and not rub like I would now.

FM Big Spark kit being installed Saturday, and hope to get my launch control working that day as well. To cut the cost, I bought the spark kit hardware from FM for 300 shipped, and paid $115 shipped for a set of 8 used LS3 coilpacks. That saved me almost 300 vs getting the kit, and if I have a bad pack, I've got 4 spares to use.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: Maduh on November 05, 2015, 09:22:01 PM
You're going to have a hell of a lot of car to get used too since you're just starting out. I suggest your first track day you really listen to your instructor and take it slow and easy. Don't develop an ego about your car or slower cars passing you. Work on technique and braking zones and keeping a smooth line. You don't drop any time from driving harder or faster, more so you drop time in braking zones. Your car is pretty overbuilt and I imagine a track day will flush out a few issues not rearing their head on a purely street driven car. My guess is your biggest problem will be heat. 1-2 hot laps, then take a cooldown lap to save the car from stress.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on November 05, 2015, 09:31:45 PM
You're going to have a hell of a lot of car to get used too since you're just starting out. I suggest your first track day you really listen to your instructor and take it slow and easy. Don't develop an ego about your car or slower cars passing you. Work on technique and braking zones and keeping a smooth line. You don't drop any time from driving harder or faster, more so you drop time in braking zones. Your car is pretty overbuilt and I imagine a track day will flush out a few issues not rearing their head on a purely street driven car. My guess is your biggest problem will be heat. 1-2 hot laps, then take a cooldown lap to save the car from stress.
Thanks for the tips! Definitely know I will get my ass handed to me on my first day. The goal is to drive the car home and not crash so yes, I'll have to curb the ego lol. Here is the track

http://www.njmp.com/info-services/

I imagine I'll have some cooling issues but when I see my tuner Saturday we'll make sure all the alerts are set up in the MS. I believe there's a feature that will flash the CEL above a set water temp so that will be useful. I'll have enough to play with in the way of damping and alignment and tire pressures to keep myself entertained for a while. Any other advice is appreciated. I thought about a wing and diffuser for the front but after talking to some people I decided against it for the time being.

I also think a lower boost setting will help on the track. I can always use my MBC to dial down to 10-15psi to start and then work my way up/around cooling issues. I think my map is good till 22psi


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: Maduh on November 05, 2015, 09:49:06 PM
BTW there's going to be a huge event called Gridlife at Road Atlanta this year. It's like a giant edm/trackday/drift/carshow thing that a few of my friends produce. It goes all weekend long. It's huge here in MI/IL/WI/IN area and they are expanding. I full well plan on driving the 10 hours to road atlanta next summer to make it. You should totally do the same!

http://www.grid.life/


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: Maduh on November 05, 2015, 09:51:38 PM
You're going to have a hell of a lot of car to get used too since you're just starting out. I suggest your first track day you really listen to your instructor and take it slow and easy. Don't develop an ego about your car or slower cars passing you. Work on technique and braking zones and keeping a smooth line. You don't drop any time from driving harder or faster, more so you drop time in braking zones. Your car is pretty overbuilt and I imagine a track day will flush out a few issues not rearing their head on a purely street driven car. My guess is your biggest problem will be heat. 1-2 hot laps, then take a cooldown lap to save the car from stress.
Thanks for the tips! Definitely know I will get my ass handed to me on my first day. The goal is to drive the car home and not crash so yes, I'll have to curb the ego lol. Here is the track

http://www.njmp.com/info-services/

I imagine I'll have some cooling issues but when I see my tuner Saturday we'll make sure all the alerts are set up in the MS. I believe there's a feature that will flash the CEL above a set water temp so that will be useful. I'll have enough to play with in the way of damping and alignment and tire pressures to keep myself entertained for a while. Any other advice is appreciated. I thought about a wing and diffuser for the front but after talking to some people I decided against it for the time being.

I also think a lower boost setting will help on the track. I can always use my MBC to dial down to 10-15psi to start and then work my way up/around cooling issues. I think my map is good till 22psi

Unless your tuner set it up to do so, manually lowering boost is gonna make you pig rich since the MS should, but not always will compensate. Just keep that in mind. You might wanna have your tuner set up up with a track day tune that's lower boost. Oil temps you might wanna keep an eye on along with coolant. Maybe run a higher viscosity oil for the event to help with heat.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on November 05, 2015, 09:56:33 PM
You're going to have a hell of a lot of car to get used too since you're just starting out. I suggest your first track day you really listen to your instructor and take it slow and easy. Don't develop an ego about your car or slower cars passing you. Work on technique and braking zones and keeping a smooth line. You don't drop any time from driving harder or faster, more so you drop time in braking zones. Your car is pretty overbuilt and I imagine a track day will flush out a few issues not rearing their head on a purely street driven car. My guess is your biggest problem will be heat. 1-2 hot laps, then take a cooldown lap to save the car from stress.
Thanks for the tips! Definitely know I will get my ass handed to me on my first day. The goal is to drive the car home and not crash so yes, I'll have to curb the ego lol. Here is the track

http://www.njmp.com/info-services/

I imagine I'll have some cooling issues but when I see my tuner Saturday we'll make sure all the alerts are set up in the MS. I believe there's a feature that will flash the CEL above a set water temp so that will be useful. I'll have enough to play with in the way of damping and alignment and tire pressures to keep myself entertained for a while. Any other advice is appreciated. I thought about a wing and diffuser for the front but after talking to some people I decided against it for the time being.

I also think a lower boost setting will help on the track. I can always use my MBC to dial down to 10-15psi to start and then work my way up/around cooling issues. I think my map is good till 22psi

Unless your tuner set it up to do so, manually lowering boost is gonna make you pig rich since the MS should, but not always will compensate. Just keep that in mind. You might wanna have your tuner set up up with a track day tune that's lower boost. Oil temps you might wanna keep an eye on along with coolant. Maybe run a higher viscosity oil for the event to help with heat.
I'll chat with him about that. I just figured it compensates based on how much boost it actually sees. I already run the Rotella T6 5w-40.

As far as Road Atlanta goes, probably not doable. I am allowed 5000 miles a year before i fail inspection. 1500 miles there and back, and if something goes wrong its a very long tow home. I would probably want to trailer it if I took it that far, and I don't have a trailer or a tow vehicle yet. My fiancee has a Jeep Liberty I don't much care for, but I may encourage her to keep it if it's capable of towing the MSM on a small trailer a few years down the road. That's if I get into this.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: rotorglow on November 06, 2015, 12:12:13 AM
Unless your tuner set it up to do so, manually lowering boost is gonna make you pig rich since the MS should, but not always will compensate. Just keep that in mind.

I don't mean to threadcrap, but here I go!

What does this mean?  Why wouldn't the MS just run the appropriate AFR for the load cell it actually hits?  Seems weird.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on November 06, 2015, 12:15:21 AM
Unless your tuner set it up to do so, manually lowering boost is gonna make you pig rich since the MS should, but not always will compensate. Just keep that in mind.

I don't mean to threadcrap, but here I go!

What does this mean?  Why wouldn't the MS just run the appropriate AFR for the load cell it actually hits?  Seems weird.
I don't mind, I'm sure someone else reading that at some point might have the same question.

I do remember the tuner saying that he tuned the car up to 21 or 22psi, but had to dial back the boost to 19.5-20psi because of spark issues with my current COP setup (which were replacing Saturday), and the car doesn't seem to run any different. Maybe because it's not a far off swing, whereas going from 22 to 15 is a big one. I'm going to ask him about this on Saturday.


Title: Re: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: Maduh on November 06, 2015, 12:17:06 AM
Unless your tuner set it up to do so, manually lowering boost is gonna make you pig rich since the MS should, but not always will compensate. Just keep that in mind.

I don't mean to threadcrap, but here I go!

What does this mean?  Why wouldn't the MS just run the appropriate AFR for the load cell it actually hits?  Seems weird.
You have to configure it to do so. I know Alex has a tuner so just wanted to inform him in case his tuner hasn't done so. A lesson I learned being my own tuner, on the street the car tune-wise was perfectly fine. But I hadn't configured a few tables to really change things and compensate when the car becomes heatsoaked like it does on track. Basically, I only tuned a small window of the cars operation and it wasn't ready to see the temps it was seeing from a few laps on track.

So my solid 11-12 afr under normal operation was now 10 and lower pig rich cause the car was seeing above normal temps from the iat sensor and I had never gotten to tuning that far into the table.


Title: Re: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: rotorglow on November 06, 2015, 12:23:13 AM

You have to configure it to do so. I know Alex has a tuner so just wanted to inform him in case his tuner hasn't done so. A lesson I learned being my own tuner, on the street the car tune-wise was perfectly fine. But I hadn't configured a few tables to really change things and compensate when the car becomes heatsoaked like it does on track. Basically, I only tuned a small window of the cars operation and it wasn't ready to see the temps it was seeing from a few laps on track.

So my solid 11-12 afr under normal operation was now 10 and lower pig rich cause the car was seeing above normal temps from the iat sensor and I had never gotten to tuning that far into the table.


So that sounds more like it's an "IAT trim" thing, rather than a "lower boost" thing.....?


Title: Re: Re: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: Maduh on November 06, 2015, 12:29:27 AM

You have to configure it to do so. I know Alex has a tuner so just wanted to inform him in case his tuner hasn't done so. A lesson I learned being my own tuner, on the street the car tune-wise was perfectly fine. But I hadn't configured a few tables to really change things and compensate when the car becomes heatsoaked like it does on track. Basically, I only tuned a small window of the cars operation and it wasn't ready to see the temps it was seeing from a few laps on track.

So my solid 11-12 afr under normal operation was now 10 and lower pig rich cause the car was seeing above normal temps from the iat sensor and I had never gotten to tuning that far into the table.


So that sounds more like it's an "IAT trim" thing, rather than a "lower boost" thing.....?
It's different but yes. There's an iat trim table but there's also a boost compensation table etc. I'm basically saying he needs to look at all of it. The ms might just not be set up to know that if it's seeing this boost at this rpm give it this fuel. If boost is less, give it this fuel. It might just be giving fuel purely based off iat so when he lowers boost, its still giving the same fuel. Making it rich. Does that make sense? Lol I'm struggling to describe it since I'm typing on my phone in class ha-ha.


Title: Re: Re: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: rotorglow on November 06, 2015, 01:02:38 AM
So that sounds more like it's an "IAT trim" thing, rather than a "lower boost" thing.....?
It's different but yes. There's an iat trim table but there's also a boost compensation table etc. I'm basically saying he needs to look at all of it. The ms might just not be set up to know that if it's seeing this boost at this rpm give it this fuel. If boost is less, give it this fuel. It might just be giving fuel purely based off iat so when he lowers boost, its still giving the same fuel. Making it rich. Does that make sense? Lol I'm struggling to describe it since I'm typing on my phone in class ha-ha.

Thanks for the detail.  I think I see how that could happen, but ignoring a load vs rpm vs pulse width table is, conceptually, such a whacky way to set up the box (which limits its effectiveness) that I can't imagine it's a very common situation.  Don't know enough about the MS to go further than that.

Carry on.



Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: Maduh on November 06, 2015, 01:06:17 AM
So that sounds more like it's an "IAT trim" thing, rather than a "lower boost" thing.....?
It's different but yes. There's an iat trim table but there's also a boost compensation table etc. I'm basically saying he needs to look at all of it. The ms might just not be set up to know that if it's seeing this boost at this rpm give it this fuel. If boost is less, give it this fuel. It might just be giving fuel purely based off iat so when he lowers boost, its still giving the same fuel. Making it rich. Does that make sense? Lol I'm struggling to describe it since I'm typing on my phone in class ha-ha.

Thanks for the detail.  I think I see how that could happen, but ignoring a load vs rpm vs pulse width table is, conceptually, such a whacky way to set up the box (which limits its effectiveness) that I can't imagine it's a very common situation.  Don't know enough about the MS to go further than that.

Carry on.
There in lies the downfall of ms sometimes. Depending on where your getting it from, you might have a base tune that left all of that as a blank slate. Mine that came from mslabs was pretty pnp but those tables weren't set up as nicely as I eventually got them based on research on forums etc. But that's really with anything when moving to a standalone. It needs professional tuning or like me tuning yourself and learning as you go.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on November 06, 2015, 01:06:58 AM
I understand how that could happen but don't understand why the MS would use solely the IAT in any scenario.

Mazduh, what tables should we check? Boost compensation? My tuner is really good at nailing the numbers but doesn't do any MS (mostly hydra) so he might have simply missed some menus. 2 hours on the dyno and the car did great, so I assume it can at least take some abuse.

I'll definitely have to monitor everything very carefully my first few times out there. I know that just because I have a lot of parts on the car doesn't mean I'm out of hot water for potential issues.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on November 06, 2015, 01:23:29 AM
Lets get back to the bottom line here.  I've been a PCA instructor at track days for 18 years now.  You need to worry about just a few things.  Your car is teched and prepped properly to run the weekend without issues.  If you are even vaguely worried about it overheating turn the boost down.  You do not need to be worried about how much boost you are making or how much HP your making.  If this is your first track day stock HP would be more than enough.  You don't need to worry about wings and splitters or anything else.  Reliability and attitude is all you need for this event.  Worrying about dampening and alignment etc is not okay either.  Set the car up and don't worry about anything but listening to your instructor and doing what he or she says.  This is not a test and tune day for the car this is a learn to drive day for the car owner.  If you go there with an attitude and a goal other than that you are not going to get anything out of the weekend and if they have good instructors your likely to be visiting the pits to be spoken to by the instructor, the head instructor or at the very least the starter.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on November 06, 2015, 01:58:25 AM
Lets get back to the bottom line here.  I've been a PCA instructor at track days for 18 years now.  You need to worry about just a few things.  Your car is teched and prepped properly to run the weekend without issues.  If you are even vaguely worried about it overheating turn the boost down.  You do not need to be worried about how much boost you are making or how much HP your making.  If this is your first track day stock HP would be more than enough.  You don't need to worry about wings and splitters or anything else.  Reliability and attitude is all you need for this event.  Worrying about dampening and alignment etc is not okay either.  Set the car up and don't worry about anything but listening to your instructor and doing what he or she says.  This is not a test and tune day for the car this is a learn to drive day for the car owner.  If you go there with an attitude and a goal other than that you are not going to get anything out of the weekend and if they have good instructors your likely to be visiting the pits to be spoken to by the instructor, the head instructor or at the very least the starter.
Thanks for the words of confidence. The goal on the first day is to get used to how the track events operate, the instructors, all that jazz. Later in the year, I can try different tire pressures between heats, or mess with alignments between events, etc. Actually know a few of the instructors there and they are all great guys. I know there won't be testing and tuning until I learn to properly drive the thing. It's way overbuilt for my abilities right now, the question is how quickly I'll be able to learn and how soon I'll want to start experimenting. Probably not the first year, but if the car feels off to me by the 3rd event, I might have my buddy throw it on the Hunter rack and just tweak something to see how it changes the car's feel. I've never done a real race event so how these things work is still a mystery to me. But yes, I understand the learning curve and my first few times out trying to mess with the car will just make it harder to make progress.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: joeereid on November 06, 2015, 02:43:49 AM
Lets get back to the bottom line here.  I've been a PCA instructor at track days for 18 years now.  You need to worry about just a few things.  Your car is teched and prepped properly to run the weekend without issues.  If you are even vaguely worried about it overheating turn the boost down.  You do not need to be worried about how much boost you are making or how much HP your making.  If this is your first track day stock HP would be more than enough.  You don't need to worry about wings and splitters or anything else.  Reliability and attitude is all you need for this event.  Worrying about dampening and alignment etc is not okay either.  Set the car up and don't worry about anything but listening to your instructor and doing what he or she says.  This is not a test and tune day for the car this is a learn to drive day for the car owner.  If you go there with an attitude and a goal other than that you are not going to get anything out of the weekend and if they have good instructors your likely to be visiting the pits to be spoken to by the instructor, the head instructor or at the very least the starter.
thumup What he said! Theres so much to take in when it comes to high performance driving and you can only absorb so much at a time. You need to be 100% focused on your driving except for the cursory glance at the dash to check temps, etc. on the straightaway. A good instructor will tell you when and where you do that too.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on November 06, 2015, 04:30:22 AM
I'm really gonna need the help dialing in my new turbo for next year. A friend's 1.8t VW stocker is on the left. Should be good for a few seconds off the lap

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/10A1905A-ABC7-4A3D-B44A-E4E0255AEDB9_zpstbd8snud.jpg)


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on November 08, 2015, 01:00:00 AM
Big power need big spark

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Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on February 29, 2016, 01:54:53 PM
Met up with a local guy who is a Miata and Photo enthusiast. Talked cars, and he snapped some photos. This is still with the 15x9 wheels, the 15x10 are actually being delivered today, and then sometime before my March track day, both the new 6ULs and the Singular Louvres are going to be installed.

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/670EF3A9-F905-494C-8E42-52A06793B6C2_zpsplrvi1dt.jpg)

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/9BFFFC45-D21C-4AFB-81ED-95ED2BBD7790_zpsdlxwfbty.jpg)

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/0C1A189E-A930-4D32-AC59-019B2E4FA391_zpsayoqntb0.jpg)

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(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/51C7CC11-2F79-4AC3-9EA3-3B3F72862540_zpsepkbytcl.jpg)

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/04%20MSM/04314429-D076-4828-A157-C514C218CA09_zpsttgg4wvy.jpg)

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Photographer Credit: http://www.sithaputh.com


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: Chrisbee on March 01, 2016, 05:43:17 AM
Nice pics! Cool bokeh effect!  thumup


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on April 30, 2016, 02:06:12 PM
UPDATE

Now that the car is mostly sorted out and I am getting into doing actual driving events with it, I will start updating this thread with results, videos, photos, etc. from my adventures in the track day/hpde stuff. So far, 2 events in the bag, second one more successful than the first, but still lots of improvement to be made.

Hooked on Driving NJMP Thunderbolt 3-27-16
First event was at NJMP Thunderbolt track, where a good friend of mine who instructs for Hooked on Driving helped me a ton. Unfortunately it was on Easter and I had a family function to be at so I only did half the day, but learned a lot on the track and in the classroom. I learned enough not to do everything right, but to be able to spot some of my mistakes.

Now lets get into the issues the car encountered that day.
1. The breather filter which was touching the valve cover began to melt (and more the next event)
2. All 4 turbo to manifold studs had come loose, and one fell out. I found it, re-installed, and found it missing again after my second run
3. Due to a lack of Heatshielding, the turbo has started cooking things. The GarageStar brake master brace with delrin bushing began melting
4. Hawk HPS brake pads could not withstand repeated 140mph stops so they cooked, and my instructor took the car off-road where nothing broke but we lost one of the adjusters for the XIDA

There was a track-side photographer out at NJMP that day, but since I did not buy any photos, I will simply leave 2 links below to the albums on his side. I'm wearing the white open-face helmet and you can clearly see me cheesing hard in some of the photos, it was an amazing time!

Running with Group A (novice) - http://www.windshadowstudios.net/hooked-on-driving-march-2016-sunday-group-a
Running with Group B (intermediate) - http://www.windshadowstudios.net/hooked-on-driving-march-2016-sunday-group-b

Turbo studs were replaced with the TSE Inconel studs and Stage 8 locks, breather filter was wrapped in metal foil to keep it from melting, brakes were changed to G-Loc R12/R10 pads and Centric rotors (and ducts still to be installed), and we began working on a heat shield

Track Night in America NJMP Lightning 4-27-16
This was my second time on a track ever, and it would be a challenge since I had to rely on what i had learned from the event a month ago, YouTube videos watching people's lines, and would have no coach with me that day. It turned out to be successful, but I do admit there are things I could have done better. I had one instance where I got a little ahead of myself, hit the brakes half a second too late, panicked, and was suddenly approaching a Porsche 911 too quickly in the hardest braking zone of the whole track.

The car still had a few issues, but overall she ran good.
1. The breather filter completely fell off, and began melting. Since it smelled like rubber (tires) I didn't think anything of it on track, but it fell on the exhaust manifold and began smoldering and dripping on the block. When I pulled in, I was shiny black stuff all over the engine, and soot on the exhaust manifold, and thought I was going to need a tow home. After some inspecting, I realized everything was OK. I do need to build a second catch-can for the exhaust side of the valve cover, just a simple hose, can, and breather on it, since I was shooting a little oil mist out of there after the filter fell off.
2. The GarageStar Brake Master brace bushing melted some more.
3. Since I don't have a real Oil Pressure gauge but just the TDR sender kit, I can't see what my actual pressures are, but they are a good bit lower when I come in from a 15-20 minute session than they get on the street. 5-10 mins of cool down later,  I can start the car and pressure is back to "street" area. I need to invest into Oil Pressure, Temp, and possibly another gauge soon.
4. Turbo continued to melt things. The whole exhaust side of the valve cover is seeping because I think the radiant heat dried the gasket out. 

I did manage to score an amazing deal on a GoPro 3+ Silver and a roll-bar mount which I was able to position perfectly, so here are some videos from the day. Heat 2 at the 15:25 mark is where I had the close call with the Porsche. My fault for trying to chase the guy and not focusing on my driving as much, and I hit the brakes about 50 feet late.

Heat 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omXy5FqEVTY
Heat 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6peF--6D-Sk
Heat 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ggda7kpKM
Fast Lap - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVmzTyP8T4c

My biggest mistake still is not looking through the corner, but at the entry, then apex, then exit. I tried to correct this a little in the last heat and it did help with times, but I am still focusing on getting a feel for the car and the limits of the tires. Things will keep improving.


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on April 30, 2016, 02:54:50 PM
Also since the last update, I've changed out the 15x9 wheels for 15x10s, added the Singular Louvres (NC Variety), and picked up a hardtop as well, just going to have a friend who's good with plasti-dip do a gloss black for it and for the windshield pillar

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This is the heat shield we started working on

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Photo with a good friend's Miata at the last event. He's running a 1.6L FM2, Caged, ~2150lbs, with a GTC300 wing that he says needs lower stands. He's got a front diffuser as well but it didn't make it on in time for the event.
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13063306_728426633357_4091197015228224639_o.jpg)


Title: Re: MSM #2373: EFR Turbo build
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on April 30, 2016, 02:57:57 PM
2 more quick vids, a friend of a friend had a Kia Soul on the track so they filmed me flying by

https://www.facebook.com/ACEKnight/videos/10154143998984855/

Leaving Turn 7 shooting flames

https://www.facebook.com/N.Spire.Performance/videos/1012730952153471/

And just a cool shot from the ride home, love the RevLimiter gauges

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Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on May 02, 2016, 02:17:32 PM
So just a quick question. For controlling turbo temps radiating into the engine bay, what do you prefer?

1. Ceramic coating
2. Turbo Blanket
3. Heat Shield

Or a combination of the above? I know there are some downsides to a blanket such as moisture retention, but someone had suggested I simply run a blanket on the track and then take it off everywhere else, since I only have issues on track with things being overheated.


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: joeereid on May 02, 2016, 04:38:56 PM
So just a quick question. For controlling turbo temps radiating into the engine bay, what do you prefer?

1. Ceramic coating
2. Turbo Blanket
3. Heat Shield

Or a combination of the above? I know there are some downsides to a blanket such as moisture retention, but someone had suggested I simply run a blanket on the track and then take it off everywhere else, since I only have issues on track with things being overheated.
Quick question...are you still running your stock under tray? If not it may be messing with your pressure differentials.


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on May 02, 2016, 08:42:11 PM
So just a quick question. For controlling turbo temps radiating into the engine bay, what do you prefer?

1. Ceramic coating
2. Turbo Blanket
3. Heat Shield

Or a combination of the above? I know there are some downsides to a blanket such as moisture retention, but someone had suggested I simply run a blanket on the track and then take it off everywhere else, since I only have issues on track with things being overheated.
Quick question...are you still running your stock under tray? If not it may be messing with your pressure differentials.
I am, but the louvres are too far forward to work as an effective turbo vent. We slipped the stock tray on and then had to cut a small hole in it for the oil cooler to get airflow. I'm having no issues with water temps at the moment, just the fact that tere is no cover around the turbo is heating up a lot of other things.

Also developed a small misfire after the last track event, which seemed to get better every time I opened up the car. First time punching it in 5th gear, I got about 10 misses. Eventually, it settled down to 1 or 2 per pull. Had no issues on track beating on it, just after. Going to install new plugs before the next event, hope it helps.


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on May 02, 2016, 08:49:28 PM
What are you running for plugs and at what gap???


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on May 02, 2016, 09:03:25 PM
What are you running for plugs and at what gap???
I have the NGK Race plugs item nuber #4091 from FM that came with my spark kit

Gaps were set to .030 but may have opened up since then. I installed the plugs with the FM Spark kit back in November 2015. 2 track days on them, some street miles and cold starts and longer than usual warmups with the colder climate. Had very light misses very rarely before the event, ran 100% AT the event, would misfire 5-10 times in 5th gear coming home under heavy load, a few more of these pulls and easy driving miles later that went down to 2-3 misses per 5th gear pull.

Obvious thing is look at the plugs, which I'll do tomorrow. As always, I rushed to panic first thinking my rings were blowing oil by and causing misses, but starting the car the next morning revealed no unusual sounds, smells, smokes, nothing.


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on May 02, 2016, 09:09:37 PM
My question would be where did you get the gapping info??  If that was FM's suggestion fine but if it wasn't then you might be gapped too tight and the spark isn't hot enough and is actually blowing out at times.  The idea of a better spark is to be able to run a bigger gap and get a hotter bigger spark.

Okay from the FM website instructions for the Big Spark Kit

Install the NGK spark plugs that come with this kit. Gap to ~.035


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on May 02, 2016, 09:22:29 PM
Maybe it was a .035, I forget the number but Ken and I followed the instructions very closely.

The thing for me is that is was not missing at the event when I was beating on the car up to 7500rpm and 140mph, but after. I was also shooting some wicked fireballs that day, so I am sure I had some extra fuel going through the system. My hope is that it just fouled up the plugs on track and that they started clearing themselves as I was driving home after. I guess the IDEA of this is not impossible?



Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on May 02, 2016, 09:31:40 PM
I'm not sure


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on May 03, 2016, 02:36:43 PM
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/520F0ED2-FF34-4C7B-9C48-F5CD4DB9567B_zpsssyftgwv.jpg)

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/21F065AF-C3A2-4EB8-A788-D343C7964CB9_zpsjyobgeuk.jpg)

Can't wait to get this top finished in black. Wet morning as you can see, so I didn't have a chance to open up the car and check for spark issues. Will try later today. If still missing, will take a log tomorrow and send it to my tuner. Will also probably see him on May 22nd so we'll definitely get to the bottom of it then. May have to postpone next Wednesday's event due to weather. Really crappy 10 days coming up here in Philadelphia


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on May 06, 2016, 02:52:49 PM
OK, so the misfire totally went away. We pulled the plugs anyway to check, timing lines looked good and even, plugs not wet. 3 of the plugs were gapped to .035 as instructed, but one was at about .015 (cylinder 3). I can only assume that it must have hit on the head when I dropped it down the tube back in November, though I'm surprised the car ran so well with it that way. The only other way for the gap to close would be an impact inside the cylinder and I'd have heard or felt that happen if something was really flying through my chamber.

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/EB74D7F5-3CCD-46B9-AF80-D2EEF56888B7_zpsyfkllx4f.jpg)

Rubber water return line is shot again, so I called Fab9 and he put together a nice kit for me with all AN-4 lines and fittings as well as heat sleeving for it all as well. Really didn't want to pop a hose on track or on the road for that matter, because its a PITA to fix and would piss coolant all over the place. Changed out oil and sent to Blackstone for anoter analysis, but the drain plug looked fairly clean.

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/A18C767A-DA4B-467D-ACB0-E07B4B580F32_zpsazieftml.jpg)

Lastly, my mechanic made a bracket from the trans to the downpipe to keep it in place. It would either rattle on the subframe or rub on the steering column so this keeps it nice and centered. It's not easy fitting a 3" downpipe through there.

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/A80A31B5-09D8-4BB7-BD98-40CDBA3CDF8C_zpsinoc7uth.jpg)

Also a friend of a friend is making me a nice SS heatshield for the turbo as we speak. Next track event is Wednesday this coming week but looks like it will get rained out anyway. I wouldn't mind running a wet day if I wasn't on slicks haha


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on May 06, 2016, 02:58:29 PM
Don't drop the plug into the hole.  Use a plug socket that holds it and slip it into the hole so there is no contact.


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on May 06, 2016, 04:02:01 PM
And the funny thing is I've been told that about a dozen times. I guess I only learn when I make mistakes on my own


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on May 08, 2016, 11:24:21 PM
Got this new heat shield from a friend of a friend, seems to be really sturdy but I will see how it performs on Wednesday. The biggest thing I wanted out of this box was to keep heat away from the brake components

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Little barrier between the downpipe and brake lines (which are sleeved also)

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/296A49AF-5778-4021-BF30-D65732EFD892_zpscgvwiqp5.jpg)

Clearance to turbo

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/21BF8A25-7D46-4274-931B-89E13718571D_zpsebtygse1.jpg)

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Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on May 12, 2016, 12:49:40 PM
Got the hardtop plastic-dipped in black. Needs a few more coats of gloss but not bad at all for $40 As spotty as it is right now I'd still rather have that than the blue

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/667B72FF-FB54-409B-BC81-12DE1DB605B1_zpsvrtnok2g.jpg)

Misfire came back, not sure if it has anything to do with something getting wet under the hood from the louvres but I'm going to throw in a fresh set of spark plugs today and go to my mechanic to get a log and send it to my tuner.

Showed up on track yesterday ready to go, come out of the driver's meeting to a heavy rain that lasted the whole event. I decided to exit the event and get my money put towards something else. Heard a few people spun out and one guy in a really clean 300zx spun at the final turn, wrecking both his front and rear ends when he bounced off a wall repeatedly.

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13161952_731010809647_8667092852163644781_o.jpg)

Next event July 23rd, hopefully will figure out the misfire by then.


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: darkcambria on May 12, 2016, 01:27:50 PM
While I often advocate running in the rain, I can't blame you there. That car is more than happy to break loose in normal conditions, much less downpour. We may be seeing rain at NJMP this weekend also.


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on May 12, 2016, 09:05:55 PM
While I often advocate running in the rain, I can't blame you there. That car is more than happy to break loose in normal conditions, much less downpour. We may be seeing rain at NJMP this weekend also.
Alex is going to watch LeMons tomorrow night, I'm probably gonna be with the misses, but might try to come up there Sunday. Lap times were nuts, Alex usually runs mid 1:30s on Thunderbolt, yesterday bested a 2:19.

Got my Blackstone back, looking good for now
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/blackstone_zpsxjsjqlca.jpg)


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on September 01, 2016, 02:41:11 PM
Had my last event of the season yesterday and besides a mystery flashing CEL (which I can't check via OBD because of megasquirt) everything went well and I hit my 1:35 goal around NJMP Thunderbolt. Head shield helped keep the brakes working better, but I think I metled the sleeve around my throttle cable because it feels really sticky after sitting for a few minutes. The cable also feels super soft and bendy behind the downpipe right where it enters the firewall, not tight like the rest of the cable. It was my second time ever on this track, and the last time I was on any track was 5 months ago, so I wanted to take it easy and not have any accidents last day of the year

Got more heat into the tires than last time, they perform amazingly and I still have time to shave since I'm braking for zones that don't require it.
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/860C5DB0-3220-4E5C-835B-8B2FD804D155_zps7vrjc54h.jpg)

Pre-run photos
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Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: millsj on September 01, 2016, 04:02:44 PM
At least it didn't rain on you this time.


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: darkcambria on September 02, 2016, 02:04:13 PM
Tires look much better than they did last time. Congrats on the 1:35? Can't wait to get out an run an event with you guys.


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: millsj on September 02, 2016, 03:23:07 PM
How were the brakes working out for you with a little more seat time under your belt?


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on September 02, 2016, 06:52:55 PM
Shawn, yes it will be glorious. We can all chat about it next week. I will really need that seat, I had about 1" clearance between my helmet and the hardtop lol

Mills, yes SO glad it didn't rain. Brakes are good, haven't connected my ducts yet. I do have what looked like pad deposit on the rotors after driving home, but I think that will scrub off.


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on September 16, 2016, 01:28:47 PM
Track-side photographer was only shooting at the start/finish line, but that's also where I'm hitting speeds of 125-130mph before slowing for turn 1, so the shots are pretty cool. Looks like the spoiler is deforming a bit at speed so it's definitely getting some airflow over it. Not sure if the squat in the final photo is from the spoiler or from the power, but the car is traveling pretty quickly, I can see a squat like that off the line but not really at 120ish

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/F7F87C5B-F876-48B6-8BF7-8BE33658E585_zpsjljyq54q.jpg)

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/7F785E7A-CC12-4D45-B173-8AC80F2FAB04_zpsrsdseeoo.jpg)

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/chelios111/3846F7E0-3D1E-4EBD-A9EB-A2A534EBBAB1_zpse1x6sml7.jpg)

Here's a zoomed in view, pretty cool shot actually.

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14292487_747741700807_4934891153041155374_n.jpg?oh=9b5cbe14bab45b48d1250a9733f5668e&oe=5838DD7B)


Title: Re: Adventures of the Honey Badger Miata
Post by: joeereid on September 16, 2016, 09:06:06 PM
Nice pics! Nice car!