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Title: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on June 30, 2014, 01:57:17 PM
Well, I figured I should make a thread instead of polluting everyone else's BSP threads. Warning, I'm not a very picture taking person so good pictures have probably come from someone else.

Up until this weekend I was mainly focused on autox. I've attended the Reading Pagoda/Duryea hill climbs for the last few years and supported my friend's SMF Mazda3 build there also. This winter and spring I focused on getting all my safety equipment that I needed to be legal. I ran the hill climb this weekend and got a total of 9 runs in. Since this was my first time, my first run was very cautious at 105.5. By the final run, I whittled that down to a 93.056 which won the class by .009 seconds.

There's still many areas to improve, but running under a Novice license I had to be careful not to have any incidents. Its certainly an interesting course, from the video you cant see, but all of the road except for turn 9 at the end is crowned for rain water runoff. This makes for some interesting lines since you can make that crown work for you, or if you cross it the rear end walks away quickly. With that said, here's the video of my best run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up_SB3LrGHY&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up_SB3LrGHY&feature=youtu.be)


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on June 30, 2014, 03:23:57 PM
Nice job!!!  That course does have some nice straights to allow some speed building runs!  Where is the Pagoda Hill climb?


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: rotorglow on June 30, 2014, 03:54:59 PM
Looks awesome!  I keep trying to go watch, and schedules keep not working out


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on June 30, 2014, 05:23:26 PM
Pagoda hill climb is in Reading, PA. It is the same spot as the Duryea hill climb which reuses the same start but extends out for another mile. Here's a course map of Duryea, Pagoda only goes to halfway between turns 9 and 10

(http://pahillclimb.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Readin2.jpg)

I was doing around 112 at the end of the "straight", others were doing closer to 130 (radar checked). Really, that area isn't too straight, its a lot of back and forth with the crown changing and crazy dips. A lot like being on a roller coaster, but the gopro didn't pick that up so well. I'm planning on running Duryea August 17-18th.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: turborascal on June 30, 2014, 05:30:24 PM
Well done!  drivingss  thumup
Looks like GREAT fun.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on June 30, 2014, 05:45:45 PM
It's a lot straighter than turns 1/2/3/4/5   :laugh:

Have you ever seen the hill climb that runs in Robbinsville near Deal's Gap.  No straight like that at all.

You looked like you were doing really good getting into a reasonable rhythm and the proof was your time!   thumup


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: VolCrew on June 30, 2014, 10:35:26 PM
Congrats  That looks like huge fun.  Thanks for explaining your line.  I watched the video before I read your post and I was wondering about it.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on June 30, 2014, 11:33:45 PM
It's a lot straighter than turns 1/2/3/4/5   :laugh:

Have you ever seen the hill climb that runs in Robbinsville near Deal's Gap.  No straight like that at all.

You looked like you were doing really good getting into a reasonable rhythm and the proof was your time!   thumup

Very true, that's why I call it a "straight". I'm interested in doing Chasing the Dragon one day, will likely have to wait until I trailer the car down for it. I have a bunch of friends nearby that I could stay at and make that work.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on June 30, 2014, 11:50:46 PM
Two years ago my friend placed 2nd overall at the Dragon event in his supercharged Mini.  It was his first hill climb event ever and he was on his novice permit.   :shockeyes:  His in car video of thee event was insane.  Did I mention it was raining intermittently all weekend and his times were in the wet!!   :shockeyes:  He's hooked but he just hasn't been able to fit it into his schedule again since he runs his own business.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: FrankL on July 01, 2014, 02:54:55 AM
That looks fun!!!


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on July 02, 2014, 12:21:47 PM
Two years ago my friend placed 2nd overall at the Dragon event in his supercharged Mini.  It was his first hill climb event ever and he was on his novice permit.   :shockeyes:  His in car video of thee event was insane.  Did I mention it was raining intermittently all weekend and his times were in the wet!!   :shockeyes:  He's hooked but he just hasn't been able to fit it into his schedule again since he runs his own business.


Likewise, this was my first hillclimb and also on my novice permit. That definitely makes you hold back a bit, I know of a few friends that had incidents in their first 3 races and had to wait longer to get the full time trial permit. I'm certainly trying to avoid that. Running in the rain is crazy, I watched some of Duryea in the rain last year and that takes some serious balls! Some guys did great, most chose to not even run.



Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on July 02, 2014, 12:43:12 PM
Okay, now time to talk next steps. Here's a picture of the car that a buddy took after turn 7 at speed.

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/10446252_10204184523558535_913290471929425210_o_zps6dd77eab.jpg)

I'm registered for the Duryea hill climb in Reading, PA August 17-18. I will be registering soon for the Susquehanna autox on July 20th, and I'm hoping to clear my schedule to run the Polish Mountain hill climb in Cumberland, MD August 2-3.

With that said, I'm still looking to move the car forward. I need to address the ignition, one of my coil packs started failing on friday driving up to the hill climb. Thankfully it behaved most of the weekend, but I need to look into replacing them with something that does not fail so often. Currently, I'm leaning toward LS2 coils.

I'm trying to get a hardtop ordered from Treasure Coast. The 10AE hardtop on the car has already been sold to my buddy with a 10AE and I'd like to take advantage of a much lighter top. No need for anything fancy here.

I'd like to play with the Hydra a bit more and take advantage of its features. I will likely work on launch control but I'm mostly interested in the flat foot shifting. I think I can have that working to my liking for the next event.

I'd like to work on aero for the car. I'm open for debate for what would be most effective. I need to balance that I have both low speed corners and 100 mph+ straights. I want the car to be a bit more planted since going through the bumpy "straight" at Pagoda I was bouncing all over the road. It took a lot of confidence and a few runs for me to keep my foot planted through that portion. My thought is a mild front splitter (1/2" birch with support?) and a spoiler ala Two-Six and Portis' setup.

Okay, sorry for the brain dump but I like to get other's input as I move forward.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on July 02, 2014, 01:00:49 PM
If your interested in aero you need to read millsj's thread.  His design is pretty slick and seems to be working well for him these days.  He's lost a little top speed at the end of the long straight at Roebling but is still turning laps as fast as he's run in the past.  So he needs to work on his trust of the aero in the turns to pick up more speed in the turns.

As for the coils, if you have a Hydra why not run the FM coil kit?


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on July 02, 2014, 01:18:11 PM
I do really like Millsj's setup. My limiting factor right now is the BSP rules. I can't have the splitter extend past the bumper and the spoiler can only extend 10" from the body at any angle.

I'd love to do the FM spark kit, but over $700 is a lot to swallow right now. I'm definitely on a budget right now, but I would like to do it right the first time. I'm interested in Fab9's incoming LS2 kit (which is supposed to be around half of FM's LS3) but doubt that'll be available in time. I may just end up doing a DIY LS2 setup as long as I can come up with a mounting point I'm happy with. I like yenader's setup but don't want to have to run the wires that far out.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on July 13, 2014, 04:24:08 PM
Okay, the new hardtop is on and I'm pretty happy with it. It weighed in at just under 20lbs with everything attached. Between that and some brackets and latches that I got taken off I shaved around 40lbs off. Not a bad weekend at all.

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/669232CB-7D93-4663-855F-74403E42CCD4_zpsccuu4c6m.jpg)

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/85CAED41-9C66-4F26-80EB-4C6FE6DF9611_zps89xcmun1.jpg)


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on July 13, 2014, 04:35:57 PM
Where is the window in the HT from.  I thought you had to source an OEM window for it?  How is the rear of the top held on, I see the top bolts but nothing attached to them.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on July 13, 2014, 04:52:27 PM
Its a lexan rear window, got it from Treasure Coast Miata. It wouldn't be terribly difficult to cut your own if you wanted to as well. Its held on by brackets in the front and turn buckles at the side mounts, no rear mounts. The side mounts hold it down securely enough that it doesn't need rear mounts.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on July 13, 2014, 04:55:58 PM
Can you post a picture of the side mounting??

Have you removed the soft top from the car?


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on July 13, 2014, 05:04:28 PM
Certainly. I took 3 pictures to hopefully show it the best that I can. Its a tight area to get a good shot of. Even though the turn buckle is tightly on the bottom bolt, I do plan to get a nut on there to fully secure it.

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/EC5358F6-8D34-41C9-B492-8BB3CB745F28_zps5hl9ow2p.jpg)

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/AD1DF275-14D3-4988-B7A1-533B884DB5A3_zpswlcjgqhn.jpg)

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/33A16D62-DADA-4150-8359-7115989DFC4F_zpshbycynvd.jpg)

I do still have the soft top in. Since the MSM warrants its own line in the rulebook, I need to keep the soft top as none were ever sold without a soft top.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on July 13, 2014, 05:08:26 PM
Interesting solution to not using latches.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: millsj on July 14, 2014, 05:04:59 PM
You might quiz these guys about splitters in BSP.  Here is their design.

http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,28194.60.html (http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,28194.60.html)


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: humming on July 14, 2014, 07:02:10 PM
How do you like the hard top? Do you think it would work for a daily driver? I've been pondering that treasure coast one for a while but I'm not sure if it work for a DD.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on July 14, 2014, 07:24:55 PM
You might quiz these guys about splitters in BSP.  Here is their design.

http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,28194.60.html (http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,28194.60.html)

Yes, I have been conversing with Frank on the subject. I have a set of their splitter mounts on the way and plans are moving forward there. Hopefully by Polish Mountain I can either have something in place or a timeline.

How do you like the hard top? Do you think it would work for a daily driver? I've been pondering that treasure coast one for a while but I'm not sure if it work for a DD.

Full honesty, would it work for a DD? Sure it would, just depends what you are looking for. Its not as easy to take off, there's 2 bolts for each bracket in the front and 1 bolt for each of the side buckles. I was able to nicely line up the fitment and get my windows and rear sealed nicely. I did have to slightly adjust the passenger side window stop down. If you are looking for an OEM fit and finish top, this isn't it. It takes some work and time to put together and is a bit rougher around the edge. However, it fits my purposes perfectly and I'm happy with it.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: humming on July 14, 2014, 08:39:04 PM
Full honesty, would it work for a DD? Sure it would, just depends what you are looking for. Its not as easy to take off, there's 2 bolts for each bracket in the front and 1 bolt for each of the side buckles. I was able to nicely line up the fitment and get my windows and rear sealed nicely. I did have to slightly adjust the passenger side window stop down. If you are looking for an OEM fit and finish top, this isn't it. It takes some work and time to put together and is a bit rougher around the edge. However, it fits my purposes perfectly and I'm happy with it.

Well, to be honest I don't care much about the car being a convertible, so ease of removal doesn't matter much to me. My car does have to live outside in the Arizona sun for now, so thats a big concern. The other one is does it seal well enough for a car that lives outside (though AZ doesn't see much rain, maybe 30 days a year max, and rarely very heavy at all). I plan to do this when my top needs to be replaced, and not bother with another soft top. Just trying to get a feel for whether it is worth it to go this route or whether I really should just get an OEM hard top for more $$$.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on July 14, 2014, 10:38:20 PM
I would say that it seals decently. My car gets to stay in a garage and isn't driven in the rain, so its more than sufficient for that. There is no latches/catches at the rear, just sits down on the weather stripping. From a visual inspection after washing, the top didn't leak. I had to adjust the side seals (which you take off of the hard top) to make sure they sealed well against the windows. The windshield seal was fine, nothing to worry about there.

Honestly, if you're looking for this to be the cheaper OEM replacement option, its doable but probably not worth the amount you'll save. You know the OEM top will definitely seal well, without much effort and really isn't terribly much more.

Like I said, I'm very happy with the fit and finish which was up to what I was expecting for my application. I didn't even need it to completely seal. I believe I definitely got my moneys worth. However for someone looking for an OEM replacement, they may not be 100% pleased.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on July 22, 2014, 12:45:04 AM
Well, we were away this weekend and the top did not leak after sitting outside in the rain overnight.

Took first place in BSP at the Susquehanna event this weekend. Car felt good in a much tighter course than they usually run. My plans for the LS2 coils have been set back a bit as Magnecor accidentally shipped my custom wires for the wrong boot. They are being shipped back and remade, but I may not have time to wire it up before Polish Mountain hillclimb in 2 weeks.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on August 05, 2014, 01:34:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUYKpS97HDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUYKpS97HDQ)

Polish Mountain was a blast. Very difficult hill and it took out 8 cars to prove that. Unfortunately that included my friend in a CSP miata who rolled it a few times. I took 1st again and was sniffing at the hill record for BSP but decided to back off a bit after cars started dropping. Still won BSP by over 4 seconds so it was a successful weekend.

Also, the missed shifts during the weekend reinforced that I should do the engine mounts and diff bushings. Don't know that will be done for Duryea in 2 weeks, but they're on the short list.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on September 02, 2014, 01:01:33 AM
Ok, brief update! I ran Duryea hill climb which was very strange weather wise, we only got 2 real dry runs. That was very disappointing because I was focusing on a couple turns and not pushing as hard on some others for my best time. I have a video, haven't posted it because I get mad watching it. Ended up in 2nd by 3/10ths of a second.

Finally got back to doing some autox yesterday which was a huge adjustment. I ran decently but was testing the edges of the grip of the tires (still on Rivals). Still a lot to work on with my driving and this motivates me to work on a few projects for the car. Here's the video (feel free to critique)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um8vDh95fUo&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: Canyonfive on September 02, 2014, 04:10:37 AM
What area of the country do you live in? I have a friend trying to put together a hill climb on some roads in so cal.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: rotorglow on September 02, 2014, 04:32:41 AM
.
Finally got back to doing some autox yesterday which was a huge adjustment. I ran decently but was testing the edges of the grip of the tires (still on Rivals). Still a lot to work on with my driving and this motivates me to work on a few projects for the car. Here's the video (feel free to critique)

That looks pretty fun as parking-lot courses go.

No big suggestions, except to get closer to some of the cones and to work the tires more.  I barely heard them!  That particular run seemed a little too controlled, so I bet you can find some time just by hammering along a little more, working the tires with your hands and feet, and getting on the throttle earlier.  I don't know what your setup is, but the tail seemed pretty stable, so you can probably jump on the gas sooner coming out of each corner.  

I think Mario said, "If everything seems in control, you're not going fast enough." 

Just a couple of ideas....


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on September 02, 2014, 11:21:47 AM
I'm in PA. Would love to come to CA but I think that's probably a bit out of range. I'm still trying to work out the details to make it down for chasing the dragon hill climb in NC.

This was a very fun course, a bit different style than our normal ones. I think some of the lack of tire noise is having the gopro mounted right at the front of the hardtop. The tires were howling through most of the corners, ended up spinning in one run when they cut loose before I thought they should have. I'll certainly take it to mind to push her a bit harder in the next event. Right now I'm on stock sways and Tein Super Street coils with the FM alignment. Its certainly not the best setup but I'm going to try to overhaul the suspension in the offseason if I can scrape together the money for a proper setup. I'm certainly going to change the alignment to more like the 949racing one than FM's.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on September 02, 2014, 07:31:47 PM
We really gotta link up sometime soon, no reason not to since you're probably the closest active member on the forum. There was a guy who lived 10 minutes away (demonsnake) but he has since moved I think. Do you ever come to the philly area with the car?


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on September 04, 2014, 07:01:44 PM
Sure! I don't often get down that way, especially since usually I have the girls with me when I do. We'll definitely have to meet up though, I want to see your setup.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: thejeans on September 04, 2014, 07:36:57 PM
hey i know you!!! haha

fun to sit and read the updates on the races


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on October 26, 2014, 04:10:20 PM
Ran the last susquehanna autox of the season for me yesterday. It was very interesting since we had a lot of national guys come out and play. I got to measure up to Mike Lane which tells me I have a bit to go yet. With that said, here's the video so critique away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_KU5eBC6lM&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_KU5eBC6lM&feature=youtu.be)

I was fairly happy with my driving, obviously there's always areas that you'd like to improve that you don't get to. I was still having to feather the throttle to keep the rear end in line. What bothered me the most was it jumping around in the corners. I did manage to find a dip in the course and bottomed out hard at one point. I'm looking to upgrade the suspension, wheels, and tires over the winter to keep improving there. I'm certainly open to suggestions that you guys have. Currently on Tein Super Street coils, stock sways and 15x9 6uls with 225/45 Rivals.




Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: Canyonfive on October 27, 2014, 01:07:04 AM
Ran the last susquehanna autox of the season for me yesterday. It was very interesting since we had a lot of national guys come out and play. I got to measure up to Mike Lane which tells me I have a bit to go yet. With that said, here's the video so critique away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_KU5eBC6lM&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_KU5eBC6lM&feature=youtu.be)

I was fairly happy with my driving, obviously there's always areas that you'd like to improve that you don't get to. I was still having to feather the throttle to keep the rear end in line. What bothered me the most was it jumping around in the corners. I did manage to find a dip in the course and bottomed out hard at one point. I'm looking to upgrade the suspension, wheels, and tires over the winter to keep improving there. I'm certainly open to suggestions that you guys have. Currently on Tein Super Street coils, stock sways and 15x9 6uls with 225/45 Rivals.




Got a link to the results? maybe We can ball bark the mods need to close the difference..


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on October 27, 2014, 01:06:39 PM
Our region takes forever to post results, they'll probably be up by Wednesday and I'll link to them then. I can ballpark, I was about 5 or so seconds behind Mike Lane. I know that he ran one of the top 5 times but I'm not sure exactly where he landed.

I was actually really happy with my results since they've given me a good view of progress over the last year. I've been benchmarking against a couple SSM FM2 miatas, an elise and a BSP Audi TT. By the end of last year (my first season) I was running 4-5 seconds behind all of them which was much better than the start of the year. I've been consistently beating the TT this season and finally caught the FM2 miatas, and about a second behind the elise now. That tells me (since they run consistent times) that I've been steadily improving my skills since I haven't touched the car this season.

So, I'm looking to improve the car to match my driving improvement. I don't expect to be chasing down someone who was almost podium at nationals quite yet. I would like to get the car ready for my continued driving improvement and do it right this time.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: Canyonfive on October 27, 2014, 08:46:42 PM
3 seconds with 15x10 and 275's..... that only puts you 2 seconds out....
sways + suspension adjustment maybe another second.
  :lol:


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on October 28, 2014, 12:16:54 AM
Squaring away the nut behind the wheel could gain some decent time as I'm sure you see in the video. I have 10's on order and will be ordering tires closer to spring. I'm figuring on getting the Racing Beat FSB over the winter as well. Not totally convinced that my coilovers are what I should be running though. It looks like they're 390/340lbs as is. I know a lot of people go crazy for Xidas and I've heard a lot of good review of Fat Cats also. What are your thoughts there?


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on October 28, 2014, 01:00:04 PM
Ok, results are up for your perusal. http://www.scca-susq.com/results/2014/14-10-25-axresults.html


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: Canyonfive on October 29, 2014, 03:53:29 PM
Both are good. I use fatcat and enjoy their custom regressive valving something found only on $$$$ penske shocks. Moving from 300 to 600 in the front dropped a second and 600-800 dropped another. (Along with shocks to match). The diff was a major improvement as well.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: FrankL on November 02, 2014, 11:26:45 AM
We have our own digressive valved bilstein valving. And outran Lane at nationals. :)  you definitely need something that will handle higher rates.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on November 19, 2014, 12:02:24 AM
We have our own digressive valved bilstein valving. And outran Lane at nationals. :)  you definitely need something that will handle higher rates.

I'm going to shoot you guys a message over the winter to talk about those. I definitely need to work on the suspension in the off season. I know you guys beat Lane, it was a good reality check for where I am and where I'd like to be closer to.

I got to run one more event before the season ended with BMR. Definitely a smaller region and it was a lot of the hillclimb cars that came out. I was very pleased with the results, got 3rd raw and 7th pax for the event. That leaves me at the end of the season with 7 wins and 2 second places. Certainly a much better result than I thought going in.

As far as the car, there's several things afoot this winter. I just pulled the Kirkey seat and my Ultrashield seat should be in by the end of the week. Once I get the rollbar out and that seat in it'll head down to be caged. I'm also expecting my 15x10s to be in very soon. That's just the start of the winter, once it comes back from the fabricator I have a few more projects to get started.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on November 28, 2014, 09:03:30 PM
Parts are starting to come in for the winter projects

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/602EBA1A-298E-4F42-88EC-DCC33DE369B6_zpszcyjqhig.jpg)

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/A4278A9D-83A4-4DC0-B040-07C671460ECC_zpsa6wq5asf.jpg)



Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on February 18, 2015, 02:55:31 AM
Ok, well the weather is very cold and the pile of parts is growing quickly. I believe I have everything ordered that I need for the upcoming season, its just down to crunch time to get it all done. I will be losing some time as the car gets caged in two weeks or so.

In the mean time, I splurged a bit on a purchase that will be quite handy this year

http://vid898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/E7262B02-5256-4A28-97C4-A974B7D1460F_zpsx9a871oj.mp4

So far I love it. Took some time to get together but being able to have the car up in seconds is very handy, especially with more than one car swapping wheels at events this year.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: Canyonfive on February 18, 2015, 08:38:47 PM
Were those 10's I saw?


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on February 18, 2015, 08:53:21 PM
Yes, I picked up a set of Jongbloed 15x10s to run. Was going to hold out for the 6ULs but summer delivery was later than I wanted to wait for. I have 245/40 Maxxis RC-1 tires waiting to go on them when they get mounted.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: Canyonfive on February 19, 2015, 04:27:36 AM
Yes, I picked up a set of Jongbloed 15x10s to run. Was going to hold out for the 6ULs but summer delivery was later than I wanted to wait for. I have 245/40 Maxxis RC-1 tires waiting to go on them when they get mounted.

If you want some 275's to test fit, you can have some toast ones for the price of shipping.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on February 19, 2015, 02:44:11 PM
I appreciate the offer. I do have some local autox friends who have 275s to test when I'm ready for that. We'll see how this season goes but I'm waiting off on Hoosiers for now. I do have flares ordered in case I need them for the 245s, if not they'll sit and wait for 275s.

Here's where the car sits right now. Getting ready to head down for a cage shortly. I want to change up some of the routing of the fire suppression system once I piece everything back together.

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/F68EAD71-7627-410A-9320-8B2A5C7C30C5_zpsrnsoep8x.jpg)

New tires

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/BFFF2532-835F-4BCD-8032-963D8DD383BC_zpsytey9dpy.jpg)

Testing some spark changes

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/9767BD74-4686-4BFF-8859-15DAEF26E5DD_zpshcnilerz.jpg)

Very exited to do this job. Ok not really excited but it needs done. Diff bushings as well. Hopefully my shifter won't be swaying around during runs anymore

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/A9C9E2CE-E014-402C-864D-E4ECD84795F2_zpssnmysbhy.jpg)



On another note I did pick up some 15x8s when I bought the 10s. Should look nicely on the 10ae. Girlfriend has given me a deadline, she wants it running this year. I should be able to swap over the motor from the parts car into this once the msm is ready for race season.

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/C1E422A3-8433-4361-911B-6891EA94DD48_zpsrcltjvq0.jpg)


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on February 23, 2015, 12:34:47 AM
Looks like it was time for the AWR mounts. What a pain to get installed, had it not been for lining up the mounts while operating the crane myself I could have cut the time in half. Its done and now time for the diff bushings.

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/F16A08D9-48BD-4E4B-B775-529E7E722BB5_zpsgmkkydgm.jpg)


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: thejeans on March 26, 2015, 07:03:46 PM
i need to come out that way soon and test fit myself in that seat. thats a definite on the list for this year


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on March 27, 2015, 12:28:14 AM
Certainly, it is one of the most comfortable I have sat in. Wouldn't mind taking a road trip in it. Plus I have a big pile of parts for your car so come pick them up already!


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on May 27, 2015, 01:25:50 AM
Alright, lots different since this winter. Finally got the car together and its running beautifully again. Ran a couple autocrosses, a lemons race (in a del sol, not the msm) and this last weekend was the opening PHA event at Jefferson Circuit at Summit Point. Its been a great learning experience adjusting to a far more capable suspension than the Tein super streets I was on before. Here's some pictures and a video from last weekend.

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/05CDF174-E07C-46E2-9159-5F1FC9ADFCD8_zpsuxu4jqhp.jpg)

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/52AAAB16-06F3-4D29-A446-E5DE8AC3FDFA_zpshzfbvbbu.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T72IthWPuMk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T72IthWPuMk)


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on June 14, 2015, 12:55:08 AM
Glad to be getting back to autox, I'm finding that I can push this car well beyond the limits of last year. I'm just working past my mental limits. Had a little trouble with cones that I'll just chalk up to some wider tires  ;D. Without the cone I would have finished 8th in raw which is far better than where I was before. Steps forward! Here's the video from autox and I'll have one from the first hill climb of the year in two weeks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zszl2zJxkrU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zszl2zJxkrU)


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on August 07, 2015, 12:32:48 PM
Here's a pic from the last autox we had that came out nicely

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/C0970D2D-2038-4C1A-98D3-111E7EB9F336_zpsdpfvliox.jpg)

Ran a very rainy event at Pagoda this year. Only really dried up for the last run and I was able to improve my time over last year by 3 seconds. Unfortunately the gopro was dead so I didn't get that run captured

Last weekend I ran down at Polish Mountain again. I took a codriver along which was nice but also added some heat related complications. Still managed to knock 2 seconds off my time from last year. We've had a well driven 2001 M3 come out in BSP this year and I've been slowly working on catching him. Now down to a bit over a second behind him which feels really good from where I started. Here's a video of one of the quicker but not the fastest since the gopro died again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhMDyLe0mc8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhMDyLe0mc8)


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on January 02, 2016, 04:13:35 AM
Long time since I've updated here. I've been very busy at work on other projects but the MSM has recently gotten some love. Here's the most recent version of the interior

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/B7D1F91C-9E91-4B3F-A7B9-B1A88CCC430E_zpsltxxhft7.jpg)

I pull the rollbar out and swapped to my spare doors. This was done so I could head over to the esteemed S&W Race Cars to get measured out for a cage. As a bigger guy there was no way I could run the door bars on the existing doors, my legs rub against the door panels already. So I'm going to be running nascar style door bars that are bumped out for extra accommodation. I'll also be changing over to an Ultrashield Rally Sport seat since I can now better fit a 10 or 20 deg layback seat rather than my current Kirkey 0 deg seat.

I've also jumped on the preorder for the 15x11 6ULs. The price is actually affordable compared to previous 15x11 wheels which were outside of consideration. I'm planning on running 275/35 A7s on those.

Here's the video from Duryea this year. I was very happy with the result, cutting 4 seconds off my time from last year. Still quite a few spots I'd like to work on but I'm gradually getting happier with my runs there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeM3hOEOKas


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: Canyonfive on January 02, 2016, 05:59:02 AM
Cool!.. How did you like the maxxis? any idea how they compare to NT01's


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on January 02, 2016, 02:11:58 PM
I like the maxxis a lot actually. They reminded me of the rivals in how they would talk and progressively break away. Very predictable in behavior. I definitely benefitted from the added grip. I can't personally compare to the nt01 but there's been discussion over on miataturbo that they're similar. I ran 15 events on them this year and have about half tread left.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on January 11, 2016, 05:52:59 PM
Ok, now we're getting somewhere! She's all ready for the cage to get installed here in a few weeks.

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/566A0E1B-5FD4-4E0B-B2A0-56903460F4B5_zpslv5jz5yk.jpg)


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on February 17, 2016, 04:01:27 PM
Ok well I've had a fun few days fitting seats. I had to move my 17" seat over to the passenger side since it does not allow for enough room for the door bars. I moved my 16" 20 degree seat over to the driver's side. That meant that I had move the seat up in order to clear the cross bar. So I ended up hammering flat a 2"x6" section in order to move the seat up 4". Its now against the cross bar and sitting 1/2" off the floor. I'm happy with how that turned out since it would have been impossible to get the 17" seat that low.

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/138B83BE-3119-441F-982E-D62C9F693CA9_zpst07vgyjw.jpg)

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/50FA81EC-2959-46DF-893F-463A556F1317_zpsh08py6ii.jpg)

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/1E9FFAD4-5CF3-429B-AF08-EA9298558EE7_zpskqg33qen.jpg)


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: joeereid on February 17, 2016, 06:39:45 PM
Nice work! In my own self interest, thanks for the shot with the dash removed. Helps me figure out a few wire routing options for an upcoming project.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on March 01, 2016, 03:40:36 AM
Sorry, these are far too sexy and I have to share. Can't wait to get the car back from my buddy's house to start testing fitment.

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/2EBFC3A2-D23D-47D5-BEC9-C297D49B0E9E_zpsootyfmlk.jpg)

I also bought another MSM because I have a soft spot for neglected cars. This one certainly needs some love, came with two broken windows, cracked windshield and torn top.

(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/darkcambria/FF0E4527-CD55-4265-80D0-AAE827A7856A_zpsh5rxynxh.jpg)


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: Fantasticmaxx on March 01, 2016, 03:11:00 PM
Ouch! looks like its in good hands now though! sometimes i cant believe what people do to their cars.  :shockeyes:


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on March 01, 2016, 03:40:36 PM
You should sell me that hood hahaah jk. I have SO MUCH oem stuff you can use for it, just come take it out of my garage!


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: Canyonfive on March 04, 2016, 07:37:55 AM
11's?


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on March 04, 2016, 03:24:01 PM

11's?

Yes sir


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: 04TitaniumGrayPhilly on March 06, 2016, 05:46:01 PM
I still want to try your Ultrashield. Let me know when you get the car back


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on March 07, 2016, 01:21:30 AM

I still want to try your Ultrashield. Let me know when you get the car back

If our timeline works out right the car should be back at my place in a few weeks. You can test out the difference between the tdr and normal ultrashields then too


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on May 12, 2016, 01:45:00 PM
Its been a while since I updated here. I've been on a whirlwind tour trying to get the car back together for tuning with Ken next weekend then a time trial the weekend after that. Also racing LeMons this weekend so this weekend is out.

Cage is done and painted

(http://i.imgur.com/ISUn3D5.jpg)

Dash trimmed and installed. Its all together but didn't take a pic of that

(http://i.imgur.com/Kv5fYNa.jpg)

Plenty of room with both Ultrashields. Man are those seats comfy

(http://i.imgur.com/hcaGVxs.jpg)

Test fit of new tires going well

(http://i.imgur.com/0WKUR5i.jpg)


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on May 23, 2016, 02:25:31 AM
It's always a joy to have Ken tune my car. We found a nice bump in power over where it was last year and it's running amazing again. Definitely an eye opener to drive around on a base tune then feel the difference after a full time.

I'm buttoning up a few loose ends then will be at Summit Point for a Time Trial next weekend.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: thejeans on May 23, 2016, 05:15:15 PM
It's always a joy to have Ken tune my car. We found a nice bump in power over where it was last year and it's running amazing again. Definitely an eye opener to drive around on a base tune then feel the difference after a full time.

I'm buttoning up a few loose ends then will be at Summit Point for a Time Trial next weekend.

dyno sheets or it didnt happen...  :mrgreen:


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on May 23, 2016, 07:41:29 PM
It's always a joy to have Ken tune my car. We found a nice bump in power over where it was last year and it's running amazing again. Definitely an eye opener to drive around on a base tune then feel the difference after a full time.

I'm buttoning up a few loose ends then will be at Summit Point for a Time Trial next weekend.

dyno sheets or it didnt happen...  :mrgreen:

You already got a text with the sheet!


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on May 31, 2016, 12:55:25 AM
All this winter's work has paid off. The car is running excellent and gave me basically no issues all weekend. The additional power and tire was definitely felt as I dropped over 7 seconds from my time last year. That was enough to set a new record time trial record in my class. All in all an excellent weekend.

(http://i.imgur.com/4EsPrAx.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/4EsPrAx.jpg)


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on June 01, 2016, 01:20:04 PM
Weird, the last post duplicated my pictures instead of the other one.

(http://i.imgur.com/sman81g.jpg)


Here's the video from that set of laps. Sorry for the blurryness, the case had something on it. I've been studying my mistakes and what I can change for next year. Next event is the Weatherly Hill Climb next weekend.

XS9c7qrrprA (http://XS9c7qrrprA)


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: millsj on June 01, 2016, 02:17:14 PM
Congrats!  It's nice when all the hard work pays off.   :mrgreen:


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on June 28, 2016, 01:08:02 AM
Thank you. This car has felt phenomenal this year so far. I ran Weatherly hill climb for the first time and finished 3rd place, 1.5s off of the new record. Very neat hill and I look forward to learning it more. That jump is slightly terrifying if you hit it hard! Here's a video from that hill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AyCcrFupKI

This last weekend was Pagoda hill climb which may be my favorite hill. It has a special place in my heart. I ran a 90.3 last year on the only run that was dry. This year I improved to a 84.7 which broke the previous record. Again, a fantastic weekend with the car running great. Below is the video from that best run.
(http://i.imgur.com/Ojj4S2N.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/I1IbVYO.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPfJ6h2H2Eg


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on July 14, 2016, 12:56:48 PM
Ran another brand new hill (to me) that has a ton of history, Giant's Despair. The first running of that event was 1906 with huge names like Andretti and Shelby running the hill. Really neat event and a ton of crowd involvement. I finished in first again, a half second away from a new record. Thankfully someone grabbed some pictures of the car so I can see what its like on the hill. Next weekend is our break in hill climbs, so I'm headed to Chicago to run another 24 hours of lemons event.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAJKlDiKcvs


(http://i.imgur.com/nLenlGNl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/3enFwFGl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/mY4rHupl.jpg)





Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on August 04, 2016, 02:23:03 PM
Here's a few more pics I've come across that others have taken. I'm getting ready to run Polish Mountain this weekend, its been a nice break but time to do more events.

Turn 1 at Pagoda Hill Climb

(http://i.imgur.com/LNGnoGM.jpg)

Devil's Elbow at Giant's Despair Hill Climb

(http://i.imgur.com/HbIksRf.jpg)


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: millsj on August 04, 2016, 03:08:46 PM
Just watched the video of Giant's Despair.  That looks like one fast run up the mountain!  How fast are you going in the faster parts of the course?


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on August 04, 2016, 06:16:10 PM
Just watched the video of Giant's Despair.  That looks like one fast run up the mountain!  How fast are you going in the faster parts of the course?

Thanks! Going into turn 2 it was around 90mph and the finish line was 98mph. I was happy to be going that fast at the end due to how incredibly steep it is. My friend in an NB can actually watch his speedometer go down while going up the final climb.

When I run Duryea in 2 weeks I should be seeing over 115mph at the finish line.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: millsj on August 04, 2016, 06:36:23 PM
That's pretty fast being on surface streets.  I am used to those speeds on the track, but we don't really have any guardrails or anything else to hit.  I've heard a hill climb described as an autocross, but instead of cones, you have rocks.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on August 09, 2016, 02:57:35 AM
That's pretty fast being on surface streets.  I am used to those speeds on the track, but we don't really have any guardrails or anything else to hit.  I've heard a hill climb described as an autocross, but instead of cones, you have rocks.

Part of the challenge is examining the course and picking apart the dips, pavement patches, and camber that you have to watch out for. It makes for some really strange lines when you watch the videos, but sometimes those really are the best. That's definitely a correct assessment though, high speed autox with rocks and trees as your cones. I love driving on track, but hill climbs really get my blood pumping the most.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on August 14, 2016, 03:19:38 AM
Here's your summer biweekly update. Ran Polish Mountain which is one of my favorite hills. The weather was not so kind to us, rain Friday evening, then Saturday morning. I took my first run on Saturday in pouring rain. The run went fine, but I couldn't make it back to my pit as I got stuck at the entrance. Word to the wise, A7s and mud do not mix. Thankfully some sunshine and a few truck loads of sawdust dried things up and we continued. I worked my way down to a 61.5 which was good for a new class record again. That was definitely an improvement from the 64.8 that I ran last year. Here's the video from one of my better runs (61.9)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qwBsx-y26A


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on August 25, 2016, 10:56:01 PM
Ah Duryea Hill Climb, probably my favorite of the season. We call it the super bowl of our season. Its the same lower end as Pagoda, except extends for a high speed run for another 1.3 miles. That adds some thrills and a good bit of difficulty. My friend in a turbo s2000 found that out when he spun at the finish, thankfully did not hit the stone walls. The only issue with Duryea is that its insanely popular, registration fills up in under 2 days. We ran 111 people and with the longer course get less runs. We got 3 runs on Saturday and I made my way down to a 122.4. Then we had two dry runs on Sunday before the rain hit. I managed to get down to a 121.7 which was good for another class record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfUKq5uyhjw


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: millsj on August 26, 2016, 01:34:09 AM
Ok.....that's just nuts!  :o

Congrats on another class record.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on August 26, 2016, 10:38:55 PM
Thanks! It's nuts but oh so addicting. I'd love to see what a Miata with aero like yours would do. I think that would greatly help the bottom of the course.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on September 07, 2016, 12:51:00 AM
Time for another update. This weekend we were back at Summit Point, but on a new track. The management would like us to run Shenandoah Circuit instead of Jefferson so they offered us a nice deal. After running the course, I really can't argue. Shenandoah is a technical and challenging course that is an absolute blast. This course features a lot of turns "borrowed" from other circuits, including a banked karoussel that is pretty nutty to drop into. The corkscrew is a lot of fun to drop off of into some sweeping turns and a straight.

Time Trials are a bit different format than Hill Climbs for us. We run about a corner or so for warmup then two hot laps. That was a little interesting since some people weren't patient, we had a bunch of spins in the first heat. That really cut down run times and we were only able to get 4 sessions out each, so basically 8 laps to learn the course and adapt.  I love a good challenge and it worked out for me. Ended up being the second fastest production car out there (behind a 500whp Evo X) and 6th overall out of 80. Watching the video I see a ton I can clean up, but I'm overall happy with the run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NjDxgIQ9AY


I did run into an issue and found an interesting explanation for it. I've noticed that the engine has been burning about a half quart of oil for the last bunch of events. I've been tracking down some leaks and a few other things, but nothing really made a difference. At the line for my 3rd run I blew off the cold side of the intercooler piping.When I got back in from those boostless laps, that whole side of the bumper was sprayed down with oil and a cup of oil drained out of the intercooler. I've also been leaking oil out of the area around my manual boost controller. It seems that I'm definitely circulating oil more than I'd like. I know that my car has been subject to some pretty strong g forces with wide A7's and still being able to roll 900lb springs. I do not currently have a check valve on the catch can, but am rectifying that. I'd love to think that's my only issue is pulling up oil out of the pan, but I've considered the turbo seals as well. Any thoughts?


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: joeereid on September 07, 2016, 04:46:38 AM
Crappy stock "Oil Separator" issue. The in-line check valve should solve that. I also always keep my oil level at least 1/16" below the "Full" mark on the dipstick.. Of course you'll need to drop the intercooler and clean it out, as well as all your piping.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: SilverMiataRacer on September 07, 2016, 10:03:36 AM
Almost everyone has issues with the oil separator at track days and the solution is the check valve.  Almost no one has turbo seal issues.  Start with the easiest, known issue first.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: millsj on September 07, 2016, 12:02:31 PM
I went through the same issue on the track.  This was early in the days of trying to figure out this issue, so I installed a catch can between the oil "seperator" and where it recirculates back to the intake to help figure out what was going on.  I was getting about 8-12 oz of oil in the catch can in a 20 minute session on track.  I wasn't on big Hoosiers either, so your oil issue sounds typical with no check valve.

Make sure you clean the intercooler well before putting it all back together.  It can potentially lead to overheating issues.  You can seal one end, pour a decent amount of denatured alcohol and slosh around.  I repeated this a couple of times.  I was able to pull the intercooler from underneath without removing the bumper.


Title: Re: darkcambria's autox/hill climb BSP thread
Post by: darkcambria on September 07, 2016, 05:17:18 PM
Thank you all for the advice. I ordered the check valve and will be able to get that in before the next event. That should provide me enough feedback as to whether it solves the problem or whether there is more.