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« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2011, 12:31:53 PM »

We've been talking about it (seam welding). 

I got sick and missed an opportunity - we were going to practice on the MSM corpse to see if we could develop techniques for seam welding w/o destroying the paint (icing the surrounding area, etc).  I discolored the paint on the door sills to about 1.5" away from the raised seams when I did the lower sills on '95MSM.
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3.63 ring & pinion FM content: Blouch compressor mod, FM-Link, i/c & no-MAF intake.   BEGi: Stainless SGDP w/ metal core performance cat.   Custom stuff: Compressor clocked downward w/ new i/c pipe, big radius throttle elbow, 2.5" mid-pipe w/ Hushpower II, dual 2" axle-back w/ open Supertrapps, Toyota 4 pc cop ignition

245.2 whp on default FM-Link maps (with OEM midpipe)
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« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2011, 09:36:37 PM »

well for an old NA that's being made into a track car, Hyde do you care much about paint?  Or seam weld and cage it, then a cheap painting before the build?

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« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2011, 12:17:57 AM »

I'm going to weld it and add the cage while everything is stripped. I think I got the settings pretty close practicing on the wreck Wink
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2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

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« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2011, 01:19:41 AM »

Stage 1 is dismantling the wreck into useful parts for the build and for resale.  Please don't send me any requests for parts at this time.  There will certainly be several bits parted out but they will be a bit later in the fall once I've wrapped my head around the scope of things - you will see normal FS threads following forum rules, etc.  If you start pestering me for parts, you'll get the passenger headlight mailed to you!

Stage 2 will be returning the Black MSM to civilized condition - stock seats, no door bars, stock ECU, stock turbo, stock DP/exhaust unless I find a deal in the meantime.  The only significant performance upgrades on the MSM that will stay will be the stainless Boss Frog bar, frame rails and the 3.63 gears.

Stage 3 will be stripping down the NA - I'll be using the '90 I got last winter for the teenager.  She's grown fond of the 'dead' Smurf that is actually running like a top on the same 'bad clutch' and 'bad engine' it came with.

Stage 4 will be assembling the NA with the MSM drivetrain and supporting go-fast-without-blowing-up bits.  I'll be putting some rods in the engine prior to stage 4 so it can get frisky with the boost.  ~300whp should be possible with the upgraded IHI and the right supporting hardware - almost all of which I already have on the Black MSM.  No matter what, this will be a very interesting winter.  Stay tuned!  afro
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Stage 2 is almost complete.  Good gawd it has taken longer than I thought un-do almost 3 years of work...  shockeyes  The final configuration will be the BEGI intake w/ebay intercooler and the FM downpipe into stock midpipe/exhaust.  The Boss Frog rollbar and 3.63 gears will stay as will the Grom ipod input and 9500ci.  There are a few other bits I'm forgetting but everything else is bone stock.   afro  With any luck, I'll have it running tonight and at the alignment shop in the morning! 
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BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
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2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2011, 02:55:48 AM »

Hyde, now that the black msm is stock I better not see it in the for sale section... angry9 Don't wanna see some excuse you never drive it yadda yadda... lol! laugh
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« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2011, 03:47:16 AM »

No worries about that!  The reason it is being tamed is so I can keep it and drive it.  When you get to the point my car was, it was a real handful to drive on the street.  Taking it to work in rush hour was like a Thoroughbred giving pony rides.

Update:  What have I done!!!!????   shockeyes shockeyes shockeyes shockeyes shockeyes

The MSM started right up, idled, didn't throw any codes and....


it's sooooooo quiet!   Cry Cry Cry Cry
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2011, 07:55:49 PM »

Brian and I were talking last night, before he got the MSM going.  I've been driving around with my EBC disabled lately.  The result is a soft (the wastegate cracks and opens progressively) 8 psi.  The personality of the car is quite different - it is so.... domesticated, compared to how raw it is with the EBC turned on and boost running to 14 psi.  With the roads being damp most of the time, it is a whole lot easier to drive with the more gradual and limited torque curve.
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'05 running gear + '95 body
3.63 ring & pinion FM content: Blouch compressor mod, FM-Link, i/c & no-MAF intake.   BEGi: Stainless SGDP w/ metal core performance cat.   Custom stuff: Compressor clocked downward w/ new i/c pipe, big radius throttle elbow, 2.5" mid-pipe w/ Hushpower II, dual 2" axle-back w/ open Supertrapps, Toyota 4 pc cop ignition

245.2 whp on default FM-Link maps (with OEM midpipe)
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« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2011, 11:13:41 PM »

This thread requires more photos... Tongue
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« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2011, 07:04:12 AM »

All I've got to show off is a 98% assembled stock MSM, pieces of a dead MSM all over the house, garage and back yard shop with thousands of dollars worth of go fast bits scattered among them.  My brother has been the keeper of the '90 since July but he's going to need to give it up when stage 3 kicks in a few days from now...  I guess I'll let him play with the smurf until the teenager gets her grades up.  I told her if she misses the mark this semester and spring semester, I'm selling the smurf and buying myself something nice.  angel1
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2011, 05:30:50 AM »

Look who came home tonight!

My goofy brother left the car number on the windshield from the track day in July I was at before I dropped it off.
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2011, 06:15:39 AM »

I guess I'll let him play with the smurf until the teenager gets her grades up.  I told her if she misses the mark this semester and spring semester, I'm selling the smurf and buying myself something nice.  angel1

You could get yourself some 15 x 9 6UL's and a set of HooHoo's from the smurf sale. That would be something nice!  cheesy
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« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2011, 06:20:46 AM »

My brother will probably buy the smurf if it comes to that which will mean 12 interest free payments small enough dissolve into the vortex of the checking account.  It will never feel like a chunk of change...  Cry
...unless I can get him financing through the bank of mom!  If I take his car, the folks will be stuck loaning him their cars all the time.  Hmm...  Roll Eyes
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2011, 06:33:10 AM »

My brother will probably buy the smurf if it comes to that which will mean 12 interest free payments small enough dissolve into the vortex of the checking account.  It will never feel like a chunk of change...  Cry
...unless I can get him financing through the bank of mom!  If I take his car, the folks will be stuck loaning him their cars all the time.  Hmm...  Roll Eyes

Ah, yes, the family circle of cars! I know it well... too well. The bro's commitment is "a dollar down, and a dollar every time you can catch me." Maybe I should buy your smurf (for pennies on the dollar) and save you the headache of the family feud!   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2011, 06:28:27 AM »

It was a pretty big 24 hours for MSM606.  The engine came out last night and a 100# box of steel tubing was on my step when I got home from work tonight.  It appears to be a miatacage!  afro
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2012, 07:27:13 AM »

It's been a while but work has been progressing.  I made 8 or 10 round trips to Bob Bundy's house which is about an hour away.  Bob has the skills to put in the cage and a TIG welder to make it beautiful.  I gave him a rolling chassis from one of the earlier projects so he owed me a favor.  Now I owe him big-time because he put at least 50 hours into this - probably more.   shockeyes  It probably could have been slammed in with half that time with a MIG but it wouldn't have been as beautiful or strong.  Since we're well into stage 3, it's time for more pictures.  Less than 90 days to MRLS and I need to be ready!














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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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