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« Reply #60 on: January 17, 2012, 11:02:32 AM »

I had to work most of the long weekend but I did get a little bit done.  The dash still fits with the cage, but I didn't want a full dash for weight and ease of working on things.  Another cool thing is the OEM defrosters still work.  The ends that blow on the side glass don't clear the cage so I had to block them with some foil tape, a few zip ties and then I sleeved a bit of the outer plastic over it since it contained a screw boss.

I cut the dash right below the two side mounting points:

Here's the gutted door.  It's shocking how much weight came out of it.

The glass drops in and rests on the miatacage hooks bolted inside the door.

View from underneath of the hooks.  Ingenious design really.  They drop in and can only be removed (easily) with the door open so you could technically lock the car still.

My last mystery of the day is what to do with the OEM knock sensor.  It is in the way of my NA6 oil pressure sender.  It will be awesome to have a real OPG for a change.  I also put the big 255lph fuel pump in the the 90's housing.  It will really help me get my mileage down under 10mpg...  rolleyes

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BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
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« Reply #61 on: January 18, 2012, 07:34:55 AM »

I got a bit more done today.  I finished the evening fitting the FM Crossflow NB radiator into the NA.  I wasn't excited about buying a new radiator and the black car didn't need megacooling anymore.  A bit of 1.25" aluminum angle iron and some NB radiator mounts flipped backwards did the trick.  Only took a few whacks with a BFH (Blunt Force Helper) - on the car, not the radiator.  shockeyes  I still need to take it out because I'm afraid it has a pinhole leak that I thought was a leaky plug.  angry9

Edit:  After reading the FM instructions that I had filed, this radiator fits all 15 model years.  For the NA, you need to take the brackets off the stock radiator which are very similar to what I fabricated (stupidly).  I'm not inserting any new pics, but it drops right in.  Also, the leak mentioned here is not an issue.  We're all good!





A few other light duty things:  I put in the trunk release cable from the wreck.  The early NAs don't have it.  Eventually, I will have buttons and toggle switches instead of a key so carrying around a key for the sole purpose of getting in the truck is a bit annoying.  Anyone trying this at home should know you need the latch mechanism from a trunk release car also since without it, there is nowhere to attach the cable.  afro


Also today, I put in the wiper stalks, clockspring and wheel hub.  The steering column went in yesterday so now all the car needs to compete in the soapbox derby is a seat.   Tongue
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BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

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« Reply #62 on: January 18, 2012, 10:52:07 AM »

Would a spacer of some type push the oil pressure sensor away from the block enough to clear the knock sensor? I know I have an adaptor on mine and it clears for real oil pressure using a VDO sender.
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« Reply #63 on: January 18, 2012, 11:52:47 AM »

Why not use a remote oil filter and install the OP sender there?
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« Reply #64 on: January 18, 2012, 04:02:27 PM »

It may be just a legend, but I read the NA6 oil pressure gauge will bounce on detonation but only if it attached to the block directly. Truth or fiction?  I don't want to put a remote filter in this car to minimize failure points. There will be a remote cooler though Wink
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BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
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« Reply #65 on: January 19, 2012, 12:34:32 AM »

Truth but not something I would want to rely on as a knock detector.
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White Knight    1991 Crystal White   #99 CSP
Silver Bullet     1992 Silverstone     #17 SM2  FM I+ Turbo  (Gone but not forgotten)
Honey B          1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2 J.R. M45
Whooosh         2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5  #403 of 4000
Subie              2006 Steel Gray WRX STi Cobb Stage 2 (Gone but not forgotten)
No name yet    2008 Velocity Yellow Tintcoat Z06 Corvette
No Name yet    2014 Ashen Grey Metallic Camaro 2SS 1LE

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« Reply #66 on: January 19, 2012, 03:39:07 AM »

The adaptronic has knock control function but I'll need to figure out how it interfaces without the stock ECU...
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
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2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

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« Reply #67 on: January 20, 2012, 08:24:02 AM »

Oil pump arrived today.  Boundary Engineering's Billet oil pump gears are the standard for high HP BP motors but I couldn't afford one.  The oil pump that came in the wreck was cracked (the ear that the alternator bolts to) so I needed a new pump.  The timing was good because I found a very rare pump instead.  Miataroadster had about 50 sets of pump gears machined about 4 or 5 years ago but discontinued them because they cost too much to produce to allow a good price point.  A member had one that he never installed and was lightly used on a motor that blew up for unrelated reasons.

Everything looks great and the tolerances far exceed FSM minimums.  I asked Bill about the pumps and he had never heard of one failing - really hadn't heard anything about them since he sold them which must be a good sign.   thumup  Here's the pretty piece of work:

And we're starting to look like an engine again...  angel1
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
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2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #68 on: January 20, 2012, 11:14:27 AM »

The flowers coming out of the number four cylinder are a nice touch.  How much extra power do you expect from that upgrade?
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White Knight    1991 Crystal White   #99 CSP
Silver Bullet     1992 Silverstone     #17 SM2  FM I+ Turbo  (Gone but not forgotten)
Honey B          1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2 J.R. M45
Whooosh         2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5  #403 of 4000
Subie              2006 Steel Gray WRX STi Cobb Stage 2 (Gone but not forgotten)
No name yet    2008 Velocity Yellow Tintcoat Z06 Corvette
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« Reply #69 on: January 20, 2012, 01:01:27 PM »

I noticed that you have a bolt in the oil return for the catch can. Are you going to reuse the stock catch can and this port or are you going to block it off and go with a different catch can. I am curious because I think that this port is the reason that I am having to rebuild my engine now. It allow the oil to be pushed up from the sump and into the inlet of the turbo. I was thinking about making an blanking plate and doing away with the whole pipe inside and out.
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« Reply #70 on: January 20, 2012, 01:50:09 PM »

Read the posts by millsj about his solution to the oil in the intake issues.  2nd catch can and a valve in the line so he could shut it off when he wants to.
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4 Miatas but who's counting!!   Cool

White Knight    1991 Crystal White   #99 CSP
Silver Bullet     1992 Silverstone     #17 SM2  FM I+ Turbo  (Gone but not forgotten)
Honey B          1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2 J.R. M45
Whooosh         2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5  #403 of 4000
Subie              2006 Steel Gray WRX STi Cobb Stage 2 (Gone but not forgotten)
No name yet    2008 Velocity Yellow Tintcoat Z06 Corvette
No Name yet    2014 Ashen Grey Metallic Camaro 2SS 1LE

“There are only three sports: mountain climbing, bull fighting, and motor racing. All the rest are merely games.”
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« Reply #71 on: January 20, 2012, 04:26:31 PM »

I will just use a standard VTA catch can. I used parts from the wreck to return the black MSM to stock. The bolt was left over and got traded over from the black car.
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
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2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #72 on: January 20, 2012, 04:27:37 PM »

The flowers coming out of the number four cylinder are a nice touch.  How much extra power do you expect from that upgrade?
+3whp for the flowers.
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #73 on: January 27, 2012, 09:49:50 AM »

Got the ABS system mostly in.  I borrowed the 30A airbag fuse from the box under the hood to power the ABS and the smaller 20A airbag from the same spot to run the other power lead.  The sensors are run to all 4 corners and wires soldered together.  The rear wires go through a large plug so I figure solder will give plenty of signal.  I also made a little bracket to mount the fuse box to since the original bracket had to go to make room for the ABS block.









I got some steel angle iron and made some ramps for the trailer.  8 footers to allow the LOW car up onto the trailer.  afro  No, I'm not sure how one of the bars got off by 1" but I don't really car at this point.  Out of shielding gas so I'll need to finish up later...



The head went on the motor too.  I'm using a coolant reroute so I needed to block off the front.  Some 1/4" aluminum plate ground to side works perfectly for a blanking plate.  Too bad nobody will ever see it...





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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #74 on: January 27, 2012, 10:47:01 AM »

The timing belt install photo is a great shot of the belt routing.  Gates Racing Belt?

Everything looks so spotless.  Impressive.
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