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« Reply #90 on: February 09, 2012, 01:22:49 AM »

Our local track was built in the 1950s on 300+ acres of private property.  In the last 60 years, houses have popped up around it including on who's back yard is up against the run off area of a 90mph braking zone.   shockeyes  These people seem aghast that we would like to be able to run our cars around the track 7 days a week and occasionally run a night event too.  They are shocked that race cars are loud.  I would like to hear from anyone who moved into their house BEFORE the track was built.  Everyone else can pound sand. tickedoff
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« Reply #91 on: February 09, 2012, 01:27:59 AM »

It is amazing, isn't it.  LaGuardia Airport in NYC is forced to use all sorts of noise abatement procedures because of all the housing built all around the airport, none of which was there when the airport was put up.  The noise abatement causes some very scarey take offs and landings to be done!   shockeyes
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« Reply #92 on: February 09, 2012, 02:52:17 AM »

There's no racing (or schools, I guess) at all at Lime Rock on Sundays because of the noise.....

Larry's comment about LGA reminds me about something I read by a commercial pilot about how dicey flying into DCA can be, given the serpentine approach caused by all the restricted airspace around it.  He said more flights should divert to Dulles in bad weather, but people get mad (when they really should be thanking the pilots for getting them on the ground safely).
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« Reply #93 on: February 09, 2012, 05:39:16 AM »

I did not know this about LGA... then again i've never used LGA, JFK only... always wondered why you needed 2 airports 15 min away from each other
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« Reply #94 on: February 09, 2012, 08:45:58 AM »

Back on track tonight.  I realized that not all 1.8 fuel rails are the same.  The NA8 rail will not fit a BP4W head in case anyone cares...  Crap...  banghead

I spent some quality time with the engine harness.

I also went through the wiring diagram and identified everything in said harness.  I'm leaning towards a full DIY with the Adaptronic.  Anyone who want to proofread - this is just a first draft...

Many of these will tie directly into the Adaptronic harness.  The VTCS plug matches the VICS solenoid on the new manifold so I can use it and the existing wiring into an output in the computer for an RPM switch.  Pretty cool.  MAF sensor gets converted to a MAP and the AC and PS signals can be pulled.  Boost control eliminates 2 wires although I will need to add a pair for the real EBC.  EGR and O2 Sensor eliminate 10 wires. 

The plan would be to start with timing (Cam and crank), fuel, spark, MAP and get it running.  Then add TPS, IAC and the coolant/IAT trims.  Last is boost, VICS, 2nd IAT and Knock control.  Boy, that sounds simple! Shoot me now...
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BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
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2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

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« Reply #95 on: February 09, 2012, 11:22:37 AM »

I did not know this about LGA... then again i've never used LGA, JFK only... always wondered why you needed 2 airports 15 min away from each other

LGA start life as an airport for Pan Am who was using the Flying Boats at the time.  Hence the terminal at LGA called the Marine Air Terminal.  It was built there because LGA is on Flushing Bay.  The same thing that made it work for that purpose is the same thing that stopped it from developing into the main airport for NY.  The airport is built on the bay.  There was nowhere to expand.  When props gave way to jets they had to extend the runways and this had to be done by building them on stilts into the bay.  There are only 2 runways there and they are limited to the type of plane that can use the airport.  No 747s at LGA.  Funny thing is they could handle DC10 and L1011 though.

This is why Kennedy became the main airport.  Lots of property to build multiple runways of unlimited length.
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White Knight    1991 Crystal White   #99 CSP
Silver Bullet     1992 Silverstone     #17 SM2  FM I+ Turbo  (Gone but not forgotten)
Honey B          1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2 J.R. M45
Whooosh         2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5  #403 of 4000
Subie              2006 Steel Gray WRX STi Cobb Stage 2 (Gone but not forgotten)
No name yet    2008 Velocity Yellow Tintcoat Z06 Corvette
No Name yet    2014 Ashen Grey Metallic Camaro 2SS 1LE

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« Reply #96 on: February 10, 2012, 06:45:58 AM »

I don't feel like I got much done today but I guess there was progress.  Part of the day was spent chasing some failed ideas with the BEGI spacer.  I mentioned in my previous post about my desire to use the NA6's fan control sensor that goes on that engine's waterneck.  I put everthing together to do that and realized I had a problem.







I could make it work if the T-Stat was placed against the block but that would keep flow from the heater core until the temp was reached which defeats the whole purpose.  The neck from the NA6 would have been perfect if that pesky firewall wasn't there...



Instead, I tapped into the blanking plate I made last week for the front of the engine.  The wire is already up there so it made sense.  I just noticed I didn't take any pics of that but I like it.

The next step in my day was to start assembling the manifold and turbo.  That's a lot of inconel!!  Brand new M8x1.25 studs described earlier and the M10 studs for the downpipe I put on last year.  Resbond everywhere - the goal is to not need to even touch the hotside until next time the engine comes out.  Any bets?



I've taken turbos out of these cars more than I care to count and after looking at this closely from this angle, it might make things easier to remove the oil and water line from the block instead of the turbo - at least the oil feed which comes over the top of the turbo.  Either way, the lower support plate it critical to get out of the way no matter how you are taking things out.

The motor made the big journey from the dining room to the garage.  I put the flywheel and clutch on but had to stop for the night when my 3/8" plug on the bottom on the BEGI spacer interfered with the bell housing.  I'll return to the store in the morning to find a recessed hex plug as well as a plug for the EGR bung off the manifold.



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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #97 on: February 10, 2012, 07:20:59 AM »

Hyde, thanks for this thread.

I really enjoy following along as you build your car. It sort of gives me a chance to "build vicariously"  through you.

Also this thread has taught me why I can't tear down and rebuild an engine: I don't have a dining Room!  laugh
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« Reply #98 on: February 10, 2012, 09:02:26 AM »

A true follower would symbollicly skin their knuckles every time they visit this thread as a sign  of support and appreciation Tongue
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« Reply #99 on: February 10, 2012, 09:53:37 AM »

A true follower would symbollicly skin their knuckles every time they visit this thread as a sign  of support and appreciation Tongue

Knuckles is my cat's name, you are sick!

JK I don't have a cat, and if I did have a cat named Knuckles I wouldn't be averse to skinning it to support a '90MSM.  Cats have fleas, try to claim my property by peeing on it, and require their poop to be cleaned up regularly.  I'm done owning cats, no more ever.
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« Reply #100 on: February 10, 2012, 11:03:08 AM »


Mr. H:  consider posting the Wiring chart to the FAQ's.

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« Reply #101 on: February 10, 2012, 01:58:13 PM »

What was the final out come of the tube from the catch can. Did you leave it in the pan or did you remove it.
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« Reply #102 on: February 10, 2012, 02:01:07 PM »

Light blue and light green show the same code? LB?
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« Reply #103 on: February 10, 2012, 04:49:46 PM »

Light blue and light green show the same code? LB?
Oops, that's a typo!  I'll redo that and edit when I update.  I try not to skin my knuckles but I did hit my thumb with the angle grinder a few weeks ago.  Finally stopped oozing a few days ago...  hack  The catch can tube is still on there but it is plugged.  If I have time, I'll probably make up a blanking plate instead.
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #104 on: February 11, 2012, 10:51:56 PM »



Yeah, they are cute when they are kittens, but kittens grow up to be cats, and apparently cats carry infectious brain control pathogens that will turn us into zombies.
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'04 TiG, BEGI Re-flash; 450 cc injectors; FM IC; FM turbo back exhaust; BEGI intake; FM Oil cooler, Walbro 255HP, FM cross flow and Spal fans; GFB-BOV; MBC; Moroso air/oil separator; Nickel 6UL 15x8 with 225/45/15 BFG Rival S; V-Maxx Xxtreme; SSK; Wilwood 6 piston front, 4 piston rear brakes;  HDHCDD; Sparco Sprint V seats; Simpson 6-pt harness system; A-pillar dual-pod with boost and oil temp gauges, #3838

2006 C230 Sport, 2.5L V6, 6spd MT.  My favorite daily driver ever (so far).

Used to own:  '04 TiG, Big Enchilada, FM brake upgrade, Autometer boost gauge, Motegi Traklites, #2082.

My mind is a swirling miasma of scintillating thoughts and turgid ideas.
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