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« Reply #105 on: February 14, 2012, 09:32:00 AM »

Happy Valentine's Day!  Besides the logistics involved in having sex with a woman in the room, I'm quite happy to be a bachelor these days.  It's 1:15am and I'm sitting down to type this without anyone complaining.  London Calling is cranking on the speakers.  I've just had a second slice of cold pizza - because I can.  There's a cold beer and I don't need to be to work early since I don't need to be home early.  Oh yeah, the motor is in.   dancenana

I got most everything buttoned up and although I still need to do a few things, I couldn't resist the urge to put the darn thing in.






There were a few things I wasn't looking forward to like digging the wire for the 1.6 oil sender out of the 1.6 harness.  How's this for dumb luck?  It's wrapped with the starter and alternator wires! dancenanadancenana



While I was at it, I put in the PPF, driveline and exhaust.  The harness from the battery got routed and I hooked up the neutral sensor and reverse lights from the transmission.  Before the engine went in, I stuffed the MSM engine harness through the firewall.  Part of my good mood came from a phone call I had earlier tonight with Travis at Boundary Engineering regarding the computer.  We discussed a solution that will allow me to use the Adaptronic ECU that was in the black car with that harness as a standalone that will cost me nothing and might actually work.  It was an epiphany regarding the part of the process I've been dreading the most.  I'm now feeling relatively confident the car will actually be running for MRLS. dancenanadancenanadancenana

Here's something you don't see outside this zip code very often:  An MSM engine in an NA!


 
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BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

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« Reply #106 on: February 14, 2012, 04:22:06 PM »

Looking great..!
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« Reply #107 on: February 14, 2012, 06:53:18 PM »

I'm mad jealous... That separated gases dp is awesome!
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« Reply #108 on: February 14, 2012, 08:35:40 PM »

Congrats on getting the engine in!  & the ECU solution!  afro
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« Reply #109 on: February 14, 2012, 08:47:31 PM »

Nice job! afro
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« Reply #110 on: February 14, 2012, 11:18:32 PM »

I can only imagine the work involved in this build, but it looks so FACTORY.

Impressive.
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« Reply #111 on: February 14, 2012, 11:29:38 PM »

Love this build.
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« Reply #112 on: February 15, 2012, 02:44:28 AM »

The first version of the wiring will be a horrendous rats nest to start with. The initial goal is to just get it running and I don't want to add variables by cutting out a bunch of stuff.  The plug for the 1.6 AFM for instance:  I don't need it but if I whack it out and something grounds out causing a fuse to mysteriously blow I could be chasing my tail for weeks. There are also a few wires buried deep in the 1.6 harness that need to be used... I just don't know what they are yet. After MRLS I will clean everything up and remove 99% of the 1.6 engine harness and clean up the MSM engine harness that will be carrying the mail. Of course, tuning and fine tuning will be ongoing Wink !
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BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
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2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

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« Reply #113 on: February 15, 2012, 08:36:07 AM »

I'm mad jealous... That separated gases dp is awesome!
It does make crazy power.  Now at least the bottom end of the engine can withstand the forces when the boost wants to wander into the mid-high teens due to the lack of backpressure.  angel1  No pics tonight but some adventures:

I added oil and a filter to the mix and wanted to hear it crank over under its own power.  I looped the fuel lines, hooked up the battery and gave it a twist.  Nothing.  I had already jumpered the clutch switch and checked power at the starter, etc.  I crawled back under the dash to double check the work when I found a heavy pair of wires in a female plug that didn't go to anything.  I decided that was strange so I stuck a meter on them.  They were dead except when the key went to crank.  Apparently, the NA6 cars have a heavy starter interlock instead of lighter duty bits on our clutch switch.  Now I wonder what I jumpered previously...   Note to self:  Remove bulb from Airbag warning light...  Roll Eyes

At any rate, she cranked right over.  The battery got tired before I saw the oil pressure move but it sounded good anyway.  Progress is progress.  I didn't hear the fuel pump kick on so that's a mystery to solve.  It wouldn't shock me if it doesn't like the fact that no sensors are talking to it.  (1.6 harness totally disconnected in the engine bay). 

I need to start getting serious on the intake plumbing.  I'm considering getting a cheap Harbor Freight hydraulic pipe bender and bead roller and making the whole thing out 2.25"  ID x .125" aluminum.  That matches my fleabay intercooler and the throttle body.  That and several silicone couplers might do the trick.  I'm off for the next two days so I just need to get focused and knock a few things out.  It's easy to walk into the garage and be overwhelmed so I need to stay calm, focused and move forward.  Progress is progress.   afro
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #114 on: February 15, 2012, 12:56:44 PM »

BTW, the MSM has 2 switches on the clutch and the heavy wires at the bottom of the clutch throw are the starter wires.  The lighter wires at the top are the neutral switch wires for the ECU idle control and for the OEM cruise control.
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« Reply #115 on: February 15, 2012, 06:32:55 PM »

Interesting. I'm using the MSM pedal set but I didn't see an unused switch to correspond to this plug. Now I'm going to need to crawl back under there and look again cheesy !
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #116 on: February 16, 2012, 01:01:58 AM »


Should be 66-4DO  On the firewall side of the assembly. 


FM sells the bypass clip to hold the switch closed so it's like your always stepping on the pedal.

http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=&parentid=&stocknumber=08-80000


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White Knight    1991 Crystal White   #99 CSP
Silver Bullet     1992 Silverstone     #17 SM2  FM I+ Turbo  (Gone but not forgotten)
Honey B          1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2 J.R. M45
Whooosh         2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5  #403 of 4000
Subie              2006 Steel Gray WRX STi Cobb Stage 2 (Gone but not forgotten)
No name yet    2008 Velocity Yellow Tintcoat Z06 Corvette
No Name yet    2014 Ashen Grey Metallic Camaro 2SS 1LE

“There are only three sports: mountain climbing, bull fighting, and motor racing. All the rest are merely games.”
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« Reply #117 on: February 16, 2012, 02:48:32 AM »

Found it in a box!  I must have planned to bypass it and then forgot so when I put the pedal set in it wasn't there to spark my memory. I'll just take the plug and solder the wires together in a loop.  That should be a safe permanent fix...
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #118 on: February 16, 2012, 09:31:06 AM »

Got a few things done today.  I used a hose from a GM Yukon for the reroute as pioneered by the nice folks at Miataturbo.  My BEGI reroute didn't fit as well with the hose so I spliced in an unidentified partner and now all is good.





I installed the M-Tuned fuel rail to go with my Deatschwerks injectors that were in the black car.  Getting the FPR oriented to fit with the VICS manifold wasn't fun but it's good now...



Note to anyone reading:  Next time you change out your clutch slave cylinder, you are hereby required to get the clutch line hose from 949 Racing.  This replaces the rubber line from behind the intake manifold all the way to the slave including the stupid coil that makes it difficult to install and bleed a new slave.  It literally took 5 minutes to install it and the new slave.  Incidentally 949 sells the slave for around $15.  I think the line was $39.





I spend a few hours working with a 1/8" aluminum sheet to make a new tombstone for the various gauges and switches.  Here is a sneak preview:



It's light as a feather and will allow me to mount any gauges and switches I need.  The sides are mounted to 2x3" rectangle.  The 3" dimension is what the OEM tombstone is spaced away from the dash bracket.  I drilled and tapped into it and used the 4 mounting tabs.  The front will get 4 countersunk machine screws so it can all come out for working behind there.  I'll post more on all of this when I get it more finished.  afro

The wiring in the car is going to be simply hideous for a while.  Having two complete engine harnesses in the car is a nightmare aesthetically but I believe it is a necessary evil.  I'm already planning next winter's work that will involve making all of this clean and beautiful.  Somehow the thought of pulling the motor for a week's worth of wire tucking and eliminating of the 1.6 stuff doesn't seem scary after all of this.  I wonder why... rolleyes
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #119 on: February 16, 2012, 11:21:52 AM »

If you bypass the switch, and in a race car you should, don't forget about it.  I have seen a car driving itself in the pits because the owner had the car in gear and turned the key forgetting the car was going to start.
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4 Miatas but who's counting!!   Cool

White Knight    1991 Crystal White   #99 CSP
Silver Bullet     1992 Silverstone     #17 SM2  FM I+ Turbo  (Gone but not forgotten)
Honey B          1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2 J.R. M45
Whooosh         2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5  #403 of 4000
Subie              2006 Steel Gray WRX STi Cobb Stage 2 (Gone but not forgotten)
No name yet    2008 Velocity Yellow Tintcoat Z06 Corvette
No Name yet    2014 Ashen Grey Metallic Camaro 2SS 1LE

“There are only three sports: mountain climbing, bull fighting, and motor racing. All the rest are merely games.”
– Ernest Hemingway
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