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« Reply #210 on: November 07, 2012, 12:21:19 AM »

What are you doing for a manifold and DP?
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« Reply #211 on: November 07, 2012, 02:42:57 AM »

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I'm getting them fabbed locally, it's really the only way that I know I'll be able to keep my P/S and A/C and NOT have to cut the shelf too much (the EFR6258 is longer than the GT2560R so needs to be located further forward than on the FM or BEGi log manifolds to allow the downpipe to fit - a 3" 90 degree bend requires a lot of room).

I was going to wait for Savington's kit but that's taking forever, there's no information on whether or not it accomodates the PS and A/C and initially he was only going to sell it as a complete kit which I don't need since I already have an ECU and injectors I'm happy with.

S&H would have been a killer too - for the turbo that was unavoidable but not for the manifold and exhaust.
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« Reply #212 on: November 07, 2012, 03:10:48 AM »

do you have a built motor?  Does the bw erd6258 spool so quickly it'd make enough torque to bend rods early in the rpm range?
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« Reply #213 on: November 07, 2012, 03:40:58 AM »

do you have a built motor?  Does the bw erd6258 spool so quickly it'd make enough torque to bend rods early in the rpm range?

Not yet, that's budgeted early next year so will have to be very disciplined until then.

PS: Sorry for the thread hijack mr_hyde.
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Build Thread: http://mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=41091
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« Reply #214 on: November 07, 2012, 05:40:30 AM »

I welcome a little thread jack!  Mother Of God - look at the difference in the compressor maps between my upgraded IHI and the EFR:





This is definitely the cool new thing.  I want one but last time I tried to sell one of my children they wanted me to pay so it looks like I'll be in the MSM turbo family on '90MSM for another year or two.  Cheers!
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« Reply #215 on: November 07, 2012, 06:00:33 PM »

This is definitely the cool new thing.  I want one but last time I tried to sell one of my children they wanted me to pay so it looks like I'll be in the MSM turbo family on '90MSM for another year or two.  Cheers!

How much are you asking?  I could use an indentured cook/housekeeper until I can find another future ex-Mrs. b lol
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« Reply #216 on: November 07, 2012, 07:10:16 PM »

How much are you asking?  I could use an indentured cook/housekeeper until I can find another future ex-Mrs. b lol

Hey!  That 'future ex' line is mine!  knuppel2

Trust me, is they had ANY value cooking or cleaning, I wouldn't have them on the market.  Think of how much more time I could spend working on cars if I didn't need to keep the house up too...   Cry
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BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

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« Reply #217 on: December 20, 2012, 03:31:35 PM »

Any updates Mr_Hyde?
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« Reply #218 on: December 21, 2012, 01:15:36 AM »

On jackstands with the front panels removed.  I've been too busy to do much in the last month with work and the T25.  I have the material to do the splitter and air dam and have already reclocked the turbo so new pipes to/from the turbo are in the works too.  I'd like to be done by March 1st so I can do a shake down or two before MRLS at the end of April.  I need to find some dyno time too but obviously need to finish the intake work first.
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BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
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2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

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« Reply #219 on: December 21, 2012, 01:36:15 AM »

I'm curious as to how/where you are going to attach the splitter.  I recently fabbed up a plywood test splitter with some scrap lying around the garage and did some preliminary looking on where to attach it.  I didn't have the energy to removed the undertray, so I didn't get too far. 

Take lots of pictures so I don't have to re-create the wheel.   Smiley
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« Reply #220 on: December 21, 2012, 09:17:17 AM »

It won't be a direct translation since mine will be on an NA but I plan for the normal mushroom shape attaching directly to the subframe in the rear and fabricating some brackets at the front.  Needs to be strong enough to stay on at 140mph without ripping the front of the car off if you go 4x4ing off track.  I'll be sure to share what I end up doing.   afro
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BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #221 on: December 21, 2012, 09:52:56 AM »

Take a gander at charlie_91's splitter on his NA for some ideas:

http://mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=40881&start=870

This is a brilliant little car, looks MUCH better on the track than in pictures - it should be too given that he's spent a fortune on it. He's done a few track days now with his current splitter and it's holding up OK; he can even stand on it.
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Ti Aussie "SE" (cannot be called "MazdaSpeed" here, "speed/performance" badging encourages reckless driving apparently), DIY AutoTune MS3-Pro ECU, Borg-Warner EFR6258, NitroDann custom manifold+3"exhaust+CAI, Injector Dynamics 1000cc injectors, GM D514A CNPs, 83.5mm coated CP pistons, K1 rods, Fab9 350HP intercooler,  ported Squaretop Intake Manifold, Skunk2 Throttle Body, ATi Super Damper, '95MSM SpeedHut Boost Gauge Mod, GREDDY Remote Oil Filter Relocation with Thermostat, Setrab Oil Cooler, BC Racing BR Series coilovers (8/6kg), 1.125" Racing Beat Tubular Sway Bar + Al Braces, 949racing SuperMiata end links, Carbing 3-pt shock tower brace, Nickel 6UL 15x8s, Toyo R1Rs 225/45/15, Wilwood Front BBK, SS Brake Lines, FM Frame Rails, Boss Frog "Frog Arms", MX5 Plus Twin Hoop Roll Bar, MiataRoadster long-angled SSK, Piano-Black Voodoo Knob&HandBrake, Innovate MTX-L Wideband O2 gauge+sensor, Lotus Probax seats + lots of "goes faster" chrome bling (since chrome reflects light, less of the colour spectrum is absorbed, making the car lighter - "pseudo-science" Smiley ).
Build Thread: http://mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=41091
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« Reply #222 on: December 21, 2012, 10:11:22 AM »

I know how much club ricer is loathed here, but this is probably worth a look.

http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/85-junior-sponsors/56430-full-aero-kits.html
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« Reply #223 on: December 21, 2012, 11:17:37 AM »

I know how much club ricer is loathed here, but this is probably worth a look.

http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/85-junior-sponsors/56430-full-aero-kits.html

charlie_91 uses this guy's mounting brackets.

I'm on CR too because there are a few threads worth visiting - 95% just makes me shake my head though (especially guys who lower their cars to the point of being un-drivable).
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Build Thread: http://mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=41091
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« Reply #224 on: December 21, 2012, 01:13:30 PM »

There are also a lot of pics on turbomiata.  I've got some ideas, but really need to look closer at some mounting points.  As Hyde said, I want the mounting points to be strong, but not too strong.  I want the brackets to fail first for those off road excursions. 

I think I can find sub-frame mounts in the rear and use some turnbuckles in the front.  However,  I am still not really sure where to mount brackets on the sides-somewhere in front of the tires.  I think there needs to be some support here, especially since I may incorporate some sort of way to block the tires. 
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