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« Reply #240 on: February 13, 2013, 09:33:51 PM »

I may have to give this some consideration in the next 16 days.  My only hesitation is having to drill 10 holes in the gutter.  I know it isn't visible, but it just hurts to think about drilling holes in that location.   Shocked 

The wing would have to be easily removable or I would meet Mr. Ricer at every light in town.   Grin

you could probably find stoppers to plug the holes while the wing's removed
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« Reply #241 on: February 13, 2013, 10:06:17 PM »

Or just use the mounting hardware so you don't loose it between track days. cheesy
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« Reply #242 on: February 13, 2013, 11:33:17 PM »

Stainless fasteners would be pretty slick and it would be completely removable to keep the streetable profile.  Nobody (no grown-up anyway  Grin ) likes sitting at a stoplight next to a kid in a riced out Honda blipping the throttle on his straight pipe fart can.

As for drilling - man up!  I spent the morning with a drill and some emotionally tense holes. (acknowledgement that a '90 track car hood is not the same as the unibody tub of an MSM).  The barn door headlights needed to move to make room for intake plumbing plus I'm saving around 20 pounds above the roll center in front of the front axle.  I had to fab some crude attachment points to mount the lids to rest of the hood.  Here we are so far - stay tuned for the rest of the pictures when I finish later.   afro









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BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
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2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #243 on: February 14, 2013, 02:38:08 AM »

Pot-rivets on a track car work and look great!

Not so great on a DD car though Sad

I can't wait until the day I have a track-only car - no compromises!
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« Reply #244 on: February 14, 2013, 05:11:40 AM »

I can't wait until the day I have a track-only car - no compromises!

I am very glad to be tinkering constantly on this and leaving the poor MSM alone except for sunny day driving and maintenance.   afro
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BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
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2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #245 on: February 15, 2013, 01:17:45 PM »

Parental Advisory:  A Dremel died in the line of duty tonight.   Cry

Here are a few things you probably won't want to try on your MSM hood.  First up is the mini scoop.  This is the intake scoop off a Mini Cooper S.  It has a very good contour and flipped backwards, does a fine job extracting through an OEM hood.





A belt sander is used to tame the profile in some areas to help it sit down inside the hood.



It went to the paint shop after this picture was taken.  It will get the pop rivet treatment the headlight lids got.



Speaking of headlight lids!



I had to sand their profile down too so they would sit in place with the plane of the hood.  A small tab of 1/16" bar stock was inserted behind each rivet to shim the lids and support the so the rivet gun wouldn't crush them.



For my last trick of the evening, I installed Aerocatch latches since the ducting precludes the OEM hood latch.



The dremel gave it up somewhere in the middle of the last latch opening.  Everything else in the tool bag is too obtuse for the work so I had to finish with a die grinder.  Being between future ex wives, I can run air tools in the attached garage at 4am for extended periods of time.  If the teenagers complain, I'll cheerfully refund the rent money... oh wait!  They live here for free...   Roll Eyes



I'll clean the underside of the holes a bit when I get dremel v2.



Time for bed - I have to work in the morning...  buck2
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #246 on: February 15, 2013, 03:23:05 PM »

Lookin' great!  Keep the pics of the progress coming.   afro
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« Reply #247 on: February 15, 2013, 03:54:38 PM »

The Mini Hood Scoop re-purposing is brilliant! I stared long and hard at the neighbors hood scoop on his Legacy wagon when considering dedicated oil cooler ducting for the MSM lower bumper.
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« Reply #248 on: March 01, 2013, 08:16:50 AM »

I realized I didn't post the finished hood.



One year ago tonight, '90MSM started for the first time.  I thought it was fitting to focus a bit and get her running again.  I've been working on the intake off and on for a few weeks and it is finished for the most part:

The transition from 1.5" to 2.5" is actually pretty nice.  I didn't take any pictures but I will next time it is off.


Obviously several things to tidy up


Notice the cute little bung for the wastegate signal?  Courtesy of '95MSM and his lathe!  afro  Yes, there is plenty of clearance for the sway.  The 2nd scrap of coupler is to protect the pipe where it may contact the radiator frame.  I'll clearance the area later.


Here's the cold side.  With this 90, we're getting close to 270* of bends in the entire system.


A bit of clearance work to do on this hole - or shorten the inlet pipe just a bit.


Intake air temperature sensor bung also courtesy of '95MSM.  I'm sure I could have gotten the hole just as good in my vise with a drill motor.   hack   ...or not.   laugh


All of the tubing besides the j pipe is made from a cheap fleabay set of universal aluminum intercooler piping.  I think I paid $75 for it including the couplers.  I got two 90s, two 45s, 2 30s and two straight pieces.  I used everything except the straight pieces so I'm very happy overall.  The mandrel bends are very nice and the stuff is light.  My hand bead roller mentioned a few posts earlier works GREAT if you heat the pipe up a bit with a propane torch.  The softened aluminum is very easy to roll. 

The J pipe is steel and a harvested flange with the OEM crush bend discarded.  I used a 1.5" 30* stainless mandrel bend to get the orientation right out of the turbo and then had a friend at the muffler shop weld a 2.25" mild steel pinched down at one end and flared to 2.5" at the other to get to the ID of the aluminum.  I filled the transition with aluminum rod and ground it down to a nice taper internally.  I paid Eric $20 for his time and then spent ~$25 for the aluminum  laugh  Oh well!

The turbo inlet is a 1.75" to 2.5" 30* silicone and a piece of tube oriented to put the oversized filter where the driver's headlight had been.  I will box it in with more aluminum sheets and duct to fresh air later in the month.  Besides necking down from 2.5 to 1.75, that's about the straightest shot you can get into our turbos - just a bit nicer than the double 90s we have in the OEM configuration that is limited by the AC compressor.

I will be wrapping the air box, the section of pipe into the turbo and the throttle body inlet pipe that comes within ~.5" of the upper radiator hose with aluminum reflective insulation to keep the chilly air chilly.  The part coming out of the J pipe into the intercooler will be hanging out in the wind to cool.

Mist started right up after a few 30 second cranking periods with the injectors off to get the oil moving again.  I idled up to temperature and then shut down since there isn't a working cooling fan at the moment.  I need to remedy that and then tidy up a bunch of little things but overall, I'll be ready for the dyno a week from Monday.  I hope to get north of 250whp at 15psi and would like the Porsche buttons to tickle 280 at 17 or 18psi.  Fingers crossed!
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #249 on: March 01, 2013, 03:20:04 PM »

Do you have a picture of the underneath side of the hood?  Did you cut the bracing to install the scoop?
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« Reply #250 on: March 02, 2013, 02:04:27 AM »

Yes, some of the bracing went away. I'll get some pictures when I get a chance. There is still a lot of structure to the sides where the hood pins take the majority of the force.
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #251 on: March 02, 2013, 08:18:10 AM »

Here are a few underhood pictures:







There is still a lot of structure there.  The cuts were with a combination of dremel wheels and an air nibbler.  The aluminum 'L' for the NA headlights was a jigsaw.
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #252 on: March 02, 2013, 10:20:29 AM »

What do you use for headlights?
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« Reply #253 on: March 08, 2013, 07:53:56 PM »

Is racecar ...

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« Reply #254 on: March 09, 2013, 08:04:41 AM »

I'll be using rectangular fog lights in the turn signal inlets. I haven't completed that yet but I do enjoy the intake routing!  I had the car on the road yesterday and everything shook down pretty well. I don't know how well the 3" high splitter will like hopping curbs so I may need to address that. Getting onto the trailer will be an exercise in small angles too!
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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