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joeereid
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« Reply #285 on: April 13, 2013, 09:36:03 PM »

So how much boost did it take to split that hose? Or do you think it's more of an isolated faulty silicone part issue? Sounds like it shook down pretty well, hose aside...
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« Reply #286 on: April 13, 2013, 10:05:57 PM »

It was about 16psi to pop the balloon. The airdam is a pretty well established mod. The splitter 1/4 plywood and the ducting sends clean air into each heat exchanger directly. The car is a bit scary now - more so that I didn't find the limit a single time yesterday.
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BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
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« Reply #287 on: April 14, 2013, 12:43:44 AM »

Sounds good.  Any chance you have some links to how to do the airdam?
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« Reply #288 on: April 14, 2013, 07:41:31 AM »

The main discussion on the splitter/air dam happens in post #225 in this thread.  The discussion about the splitter design is here at MT.  Please be reminded to NOT post there as a newbie or you will be flamed off the board.  Sorry, I can't help you over there...  buck2

http://www.miataturbo.net/race-prep-75/splitter-height-70456/

A member there named Paul works in fluid dynamics and did a model on the miata shape.  These images are his from the thread I linked and show the same car with 6 different nose configurations and ride heights:







My car is in configuration #6 which provides the lowest drag, produces the most downforce at speed and requires the least power to maintain that speed.  If you have any questions, feel free to ask but know I will just be referencing Paul's comments and parroting the information.   Tongue
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
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2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #289 on: April 15, 2013, 01:44:19 PM »

Did the 1/4" plywood seem to hold up?  I read people using 3/8", so I wasn't sure if 1/4" would be think enough.  You obviously have more power now, but could you tell a difference with the aero stuff?

Looks great BTW. afro
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« Reply #290 on: April 15, 2013, 03:52:08 PM »

There is a little defection but it only extends past the air dam by ~2".  I didn't scrape anywhere on the track that I could hear.  I'll need some high res photos at speed or a precariously mounted gopro to know for sure.  I was going faster through every section of the track and the only time either end of the car got loose were powering out of low speed corners so I know there is a lot more time on the table.  I could gain almost a full second between the entry to turn 1 and the exit to turn 3 if I had the courage to turn in @130  shockeyes.

Short answer:  Yes, the aero work was immediately noticeable and worth at least half of the 6.5 seconds - more when I learn to trust it.  afro
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #291 on: April 15, 2013, 11:08:11 PM »

Hyde, here'seomthing to go with your cot wing!
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« Reply #292 on: April 16, 2013, 02:52:25 AM »

Hyde, you are a beautiful man for sharing that with us.  I'm very impressed by the effectiveness of #3, just adding a Corvette-style airdam.  That's not an unattractive idea.  And it's apparently not too hard to do either.

http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,25844.0.html

Plus it can be done for a streetable car.
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« Reply #293 on: April 16, 2013, 04:38:35 AM »

I suspect our MSM 'splitter' has some benefit over the bone stock NA nose in the models.  It may be placebo, but back when I tracked the MSM, I felt like the nose of the car was more planted >130 with the Track Dog splitter and it's just plastic held on with plastic.
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #294 on: April 16, 2013, 05:23:45 AM »

another project gets added to the list........
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« Reply #295 on: April 16, 2013, 08:41:59 AM »

I leave for MRLS in 8 days and there is a lot to do.  I'm in the middle of a brake job and decided to repack the front hubs while everything was off.  I got a tube of the Amsoil full synthetic racing grease and worked over each hub.  There was some nasty black tar looking goo in there but the metal was clean.  I'm going to make this a ritual each winter.  With a little routine maintenance, I should be able to get the hubs to last for a while.  The loads on them just increased significantly...

'95MSM made the mistake of asking if I needed a hand with anything.  I wanted to build an air box around my filter but that kind of fabrication would take a big chunk of time out of my remaining time allotment so he's going to take on the project.  There will be another piece of '95MSM artwork on the car after Thursday and pictures will be prominent!   afro
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #296 on: April 21, 2013, 04:51:25 AM »

Hmmm. I didn't mean to post right after Brian made the comment about the airbox, but I guess that just can't be helped.

I wish you guys could see the transformation this car has gone through.  It arrived in VERY rough condition - maybe not even running.  The demise of MSM 606 happened at just the right time for Brian to make it the mechanical basis for the track car.  Last year it was mechanically functional, had no aero help and truthfully looked a little ratty. He fixed the significant bodywork issues and repainted those areas late last year, his aero mods are effective and look good, and with the race car graphics and Plastidip stripes on it now, the car is looking quite sharp. I mean, who looks beyond that COT wing, anyway??? This is an impressively fast car for a very modest investment of $$ (major investment in time).

I'm happy to have been able to give him a fabrication tip or two along the way, and I'm very pleased with the way the airbox turned out.
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« Reply #297 on: April 21, 2013, 01:25:16 PM »

I'm happy to have been able to give him a fabrication tip or two along the way, and I'm very pleased with the way the airbox turned out.

There will always be one thing on the car that doesn't quite 'fit' because it is of better workmanship that I have, and that is this airbox.   afro













I looked through my box of stickers, logos and graphics and I don't have anything from FM.  I guess I need to call Keith and buy something?   The Mazda logo will need to do since '95MSM doesn't have his artwork produced yet!  Tongue

Edit:  Bonus points for the first person to identify the special touch that proves where this came from.   angel1
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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« Reply #298 on: April 21, 2013, 03:30:03 PM »

Nice work you guys. That should keep those IAT's in check. I like the Air-dam scrap cover. I was thinking of a plexi one for my design to view hydraulic fluid levels.
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« Reply #299 on: April 21, 2013, 11:37:19 PM »

Mark did all the real work. I stuck the heat reflecting tape on and riveted the mount for the boost controller plus I stuck the Mazda logo on.
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2005 Black Mica #290 8/27/04 w/Factory Hard Top
BEGi Intake, FM Downpipe.  Nice and calm with an edge...

1990 Red - MSM Drivetrain, Adaptronic EMS, Xida 700/400, 15x9 6uls, Full Cage, SGDP w/80mm Corksport exhaust, ~260whp @ 15psi on Forged Rods.  bow2
Build Thread: http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

2000 BMW M5 - The Falcon - Daily Driver  reddevil

2003 E350 7.3 Powerstroke Ambulance for towing '90MSM to play dates.

1991 BRG - Daughter's daily driver.
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