04TitaniumGrayPhilly
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« on: March 05, 2014, 02:16:34 PM » |
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So it's been a bit cold  and my car hasn't run in a while. The battery after 10 years is starting to show it's age. After being run (not driven) and parked overnight, it needs a charger hooked to it and then you hear the starter spin MUCH faster the next morning. That said, it's not dead YET but I feel that the time is coming closer by the week. Short of going to any of my local auto parts stores, what are some smaller and lighter options available? Is wet or dry cell better for a car that will be driven 3-4 days a week during peak season and very occasionally during down season. I've heard of Oddysey and Braille but both seem to cost double of a OEM style, why? |
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barmato
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2014, 02:33:50 PM » |
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Always hook up a trickle chager during the down season. Your battery will be much happier for it. These are not deep cycle batteries and letting them die and then recharging them hurts them although not as much with an AGM vs wet cell.
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2014, 04:14:11 PM » |
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I'm running an Optima yellow top that is made for a Prius. It's a little taller than stock but the stock tie down works with the upper hole & a longer bolt. The vent is just a plastic elbow stuck in the side that hooks up to the vent in the fender. The biggest drawback to the Prius battery is the top posts are a smaller diameter than the standard. None of my flaps had connectors small enough so I used some split lead spacers to fill the gap until spring rolls around & I can track down the correct connectors. Why all this work to fit the Optima? I get them for less than the price of the auto parts stores stock batteries.
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04TitaniumGrayPhilly
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2014, 05:49:41 PM » |
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I am guessing I couldn't get them anywhere close to your pricing? Google is showing me prices of 150-200 for said battery, though it looks aweome. Do they last a long time?
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2014, 06:05:34 PM » |
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Been very happy with Braille 21lb unit. Sat through the 2012-13 winter in an unheated garage, no trickle charge, and started the car without issue.
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2014, 06:41:20 PM » |
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Remember the "OEM" style battery in a Miata is an AGM unit. Going to the local FLAPS and getting a battery is a hit or miss thing. That said AutoZone sells a direct fit battery for the Miata. It is an AGM and it is a higher capacity than the OEM unit. Good warranty too.
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2014, 08:40:45 PM » |
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O' Reilys carries one as well, and I think the product code is "miata"
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2014, 11:28:29 AM » |
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I am guessing I couldn't get them anywhere close to your pricing? Google is showing me prices of 150-200 for said battery, though it looks aweome. Do they last a long time?
Probably not, I get a great deal through a site called Promotive which gives discounts on products based on your profession. I can't tell you exactly what I can get them for but it was at my door 2 days after I ordered it for less than it would cost to buy a stockish battery locally. I had a red top in a vehicle for 5+ years before before I sold the car but it never failed to fire right up even after sitting for a month near the end of the 5 year mark. The one in the miata has been there for 2 months with only been driven once in that time span. I tired a few weeks ago in negative degree weather & sitting outside, the engine didn't like operating in those temps but it still fired up. The stock battery on the Jeep didn't but my little yellow top did. Now the Jeep has a red top & all is well for both vehicles. |
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Spring & Fall: 05 Mazdaspeed Miata (Lava) #540 of 1428 - TurboXS MBC, FM Intake & TB, GFB recir BOV, Rear Poly Bushings, Voodoo Magnum Shift Knob, Autometer Boost Gauge, AuxMod, eBay Catless DP, eBay intercooler, Real OPG & Linear Temp Mod, Mishimoto Radiator, FM Stage 1 Fan kit, Alutec Rear Strut Tower Brace, FM O2 Modifier, FM Stage 1 clutch w/ 10.3lbs flywheel, FM Frame Rails, LRB splash guard, Custom LED 3rd brake light, Optima red top battery
Winter: 08 Jeep Liberty (Kill Wagon) Euro mod blackouted tail lights, Jk winch bumper on custom mounts, 3.5" OME lift, Treadwright Guard Dog tires, Curt hitch, K&N filter, Optima red top battery, factory fogs added & custom fender mounted Hella 500 spot lights.
Summer: 05 Kawasaki ZX6-R (Blue Streak) Yoshimura Rs5 carbon fiber slip on, carbon fiber body panels, HIDs, stainless steel brake lines.
For Fun: 02 Suzuki Quad King 300 4x4 w/ plow, K&N filter, dynojet jet kit, utility lights, 2000lb winch on custom brackets
In the works: 1979 Bradley GTII kit car and a Kawasaki B8 motorcycle
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2014, 12:02:03 PM » |
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Remember the "OEM" style battery in a Miata is an AGM unit. Going to the local FLAPS and getting a battery is a hit or miss thing. That said AutoZone sells a direct fit battery for the Miata. It is an AGM and it is a higher capacity than the OEM unit. Good warranty too.
Are you talking about this battery SMR? I think I might be on that boat soon too. My battery is not lasting as long lately if the car is parked for about a month (battery diconnected of course), last year the wife had to get it recharged at autozone and she was DD it, so depending on how it works when I start the car by the end of this month, I might go shopping |
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2014, 02:32:52 PM » |
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Whatever, however you linked that it flashed the battery up and then it's gone but the one flashing up is the correct unit.
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04TitaniumGrayPhilly
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2014, 06:00:21 PM » |
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Whatever, however you linked that it flashed the battery up and then it's gone but the one flashing up is the correct unit.
Duralast Gold 8AMU1R? Doesn't say it's an AGM, though perhaps it is. I'm OK with the $125 pricepoint but want to see if there's something a bit lighter, though at 27lbs it's not bad. |
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2014, 06:04:38 PM » |
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Whatever, however you linked that it flashed the battery up and then it's gone but the one flashing up is the correct unit.
Duralast Gold 8AMU1R? Doesn't say it's an AGM, though perhaps it is. I'm OK with the $125 pricepoint but want to see if there's something a bit lighter, though at 27lbs it's not bad. Weight: 24.0 lbsNotes: Warranty consists of 3 years free replacement plus 2 years prorated. *** 370 Cold cranking Amps (460 cranking Amps) ***. 45 reserve minutes. Check the customer's vehicle, battery installation could take up to 30 minutes. Battery located in trunk. Special 12-volt: 9 3/4" x 5" x 7 1/2". Battery is vented to outside of vehicle (AGM)Right from the website |
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Larry 4 Miatas but who's counting!! White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 SM2 FM I+ Turbo (Gone but not forgotten) Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2 J.R. M45 Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5 #403 of 4000 Subie 2006 Steel Gray WRX STi Cobb Stage 2 (Gone but not forgotten) No name yet 2008 Velocity Yellow Tintcoat Z06 Corvette No Name yet 2014 Ashen Grey Metallic Camaro 2SS 1LE “There are only three sports: mountain climbing, bull fighting, and motor racing. All the rest are merely games.” – Ernest Hemingway |
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2014, 06:09:32 PM » |
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For what its worth I got the Duralast Gold about a month ago at Autozone for around $125 as well with the 3/5 year warranty
My car is a DD so i cant speak for its storage but the warranty IMO would ease my concerns.
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04TitaniumGrayPhilly
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2014, 07:20:32 PM » |
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If it's only 24 (or even at 27) I can't imagine paying double that for one that will save even 20 pounds, just not worth it IMO. And the small oddysey units don't seem to have the same CCA ratings
So is there anything smaller comparable in power and price?
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