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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2014, 07:33:27 PM »



Weight:    24.0 lbs
Notes:    Warranty consists of 3 years free replacement plus 2 years prorated. *** 370 Cold cranking Amps (460 cranking Amps) ***. 45 reserve minutes. Check the customer's vehicle, battery installation could take up to 30 minutes. Battery located in trunk. Special 12-volt: 9 3/4" x 5" x 7 1/2". Battery is vented to outside of vehicle (AGM)

Right from the website


Not sure that the above is really definitive-

Advance's AutoCraft Silver has substantially similar text, but it is in fact a lead-acid:

Special 12-volt: 9 3/4in. x 5in. x 7 1/2in., Battery is vented to outside of vehicle (AGM)..; Installation may take up to 30 minutes. Battery located in trunk.; OE Spec: OE Group 46A24L; OE CCA 320; Battery Spec: 370 CCA, Reliable Starting Power

M.net has threads which discuss how many vendors are just wrong about their Miata their batteries being AGM and there's at least one which lists the ones that are reliably AGM. From that list, I went with a Marathon from BatteryMart: http://www.batterymart.com/p-12v-mazda-miata-battery.html
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2014, 11:09:26 PM »

I too got the Marathon battery from Battery Mart, and although I treated it right it failed within six months. I then got the item number "MIATA" battery ($125) from O'Reilly and it has been fine.
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2014, 11:59:58 AM »

Whatever, however you linked that it flashed the battery up and then it's gone but the one flashing up is the correct unit.

Duralast Gold 8AMU1R?

Doesn't say it's an AGM, though perhaps it is.

I'm OK with the $125 pricepoint but want to see if there's something a bit lighter, though at 27lbs it's not bad.

yeah exactly the one I had on the website (the site wants you to select the car to ensure a fit rolleyes) so how heavy is the stock battery then? I've never had to deal with that, back in Nov I took it out to charge it and didnt think it was too heavy but my arm scale is broken so I dunno... certainly not as heavy as other batteries
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2014, 02:34:26 PM »

Happy Odyssey 925 owner here. I think I installed it in '03, but it could be a year or so older than that.

Unfortunately, they have gotten pricey. The cheapest 925 I found (didn't search much) was $160.

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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2014, 02:48:43 PM »

Happy Odyssey 925 owner here. I think I installed it in '03, but it could be a year or so older than that.

Unfortunately, they have gotten pricey. The cheapest 925 I found (didn't search much) was $160.

26 lbs.
So if the weight and price is comprable to other batteries, is there anything that makes it better? Amazon has them for $150. CCA looks good, though my car is mostly for summer anyway and I can plug a trickle charger to it in the garage during winter. Maybe I can afford to step down to one of the smaller Odysseys?
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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2014, 06:37:05 AM »

I run a 680 in the race car, which has no charging system. I know there are people using those in dual duty DD and autocross Miatas. Might be a bit small if the car sits for any length of time with an alarm on.

Odyssey batteries are pretty cool in that they will take a really high amperage charge, but if you hit them with 15v or more, their life is shortened drastically. That usually isn't a problem unless you hook one up to a big wheeled charger that makes lots of amps and is "managed" via a timer. If you set the charge time too long and the battery "fills up", the charge voltage can get really, really high. BTDT, retired that 680 to booster duty.
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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2014, 11:58:02 PM »

So basically it seems there's no difference for me between an Oddysey 925 and a regular cheap AGM battery. Same weight, one just costs more.

I still don't understand the practical differences unless there are none.
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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2014, 03:08:46 AM »

Goodwin has the Westco AGM for $120. I bought a new one @ 3 yrs ago when my first one died,  or so I thought. I was able to revive it with some slow charging. It's been on my "spares" shelf since and still reads 12v+.
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2014, 12:49:36 PM »

Goodwin has the Westco AGM for $120.

Plus shipping??  While the Autozone one is going to be plus tax but in most cases that's less than the shipping.

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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2014, 12:49:50 AM »

The car that holds the miata track record on all the Northwest tracks runs this:

http://www.amazon.com/BikeMaster-TruGel-Battery-MG14Z-S/dp/B0038I1618

High impedance injectors can complain about small batteries and the Hydra has issues under a certain voltage.  Bob needs a jump pack to get started sometimes but it does save a ton of weight.
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« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2014, 01:59:28 AM »

This is the battery in the M3

http://www.braillebattery.com/index.php/braille/product_batteries/b106

I have to keep it on a trickle charger between track days because it goes dead pretty quickly when it's not being used.

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« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2014, 04:01:09 PM »

This is the battery in the M3

http://www.braillebattery.com/index.php/braille/product_batteries/b106

I have to keep it on a trickle charger between track days because it goes dead pretty quickly when it's not being used.



I have the larger Braille (http://www.summitracing.com/search?SortBy=BestKeywordMatch&SortOrder=Ascending&keyword=B3121) and love it. Now that the car is not on the road, I might get something lighter like yours, SMR.
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« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2014, 04:20:35 PM »

Saw this video the other day and it got me thinking about other options for batteries...as far as I know...this is still running strong:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3x_kYq3mHM
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« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2014, 04:35:07 PM »

Cool idea. I'm going to look into that.
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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2014, 05:10:32 PM »

I'd love to see someone else try it....I'm too chicken
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