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« Reply #120 on: January 19, 2016, 01:10:37 AM »

Nice choice on the louvres. I don't know if it's been updated anywhere on their site, but I actually got my Singular vents, and they too now use rivets to hold in place. Curious to see how this comes out. Any tips for cutting the hood? I'll be installing my Singular NC ones on the MSM pretty soon.
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« Reply #121 on: January 19, 2016, 02:42:47 AM »

Rivets eh? Do they run them around the entire perimeter? The RunCools are @ 1~1.25" apart.
    My hood was destined for the body shop so my conditions were a little more forgiving. I don't know if Singular is providing a template for the NC 's on an NB hood or not but I do know that the underhood bracing  is going to be in the way because their construction protrudes below the plane of the hood. So as far as placement you may be on your own.
   As far as cutting goes, I started with a 1" hole saw at the corners and then used a 4 1/2" grinder with a thin SAIT disc to connect the holes. You have to be mindful of the heat build-up as it will make the aluminum buckle and too much may permanently buckle the hood. I just did the "a little here, a little there, switch to the other hole, repeat" method.
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« Reply #122 on: January 19, 2016, 07:51:28 AM »

I put my vents in with aluminum rivets.  They don't corrode, are easy to work with, easy to drill out if you need to change something and a hood vent doesn't need to have structural strength.
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« Reply #123 on: January 19, 2016, 04:25:06 PM »

My hood louvers came with BLACK aluminum rivets....super custom!
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« Reply #124 on: January 20, 2016, 02:15:25 PM »

Rivets eh? Do they run them around the entire perimeter? The RunCools are @ 1~1.25" apart.
    My hood was destined for the body shop so my conditions were a little more forgiving. I don't know if Singular is providing a template for the NC 's on an NB hood or not but I do know that the underhood bracing  is going to be in the way because their construction protrudes below the plane of the hood. So as far as placement you may be on your own.
   As far as cutting goes, I started with a 1" hole saw at the corners and then used a 4 1/2" grinder with a thin SAIT disc to connect the holes. You have to be mindful of the heat build-up as it will make the aluminum buckle and too much may permanently buckle the hood. I just did the "a little here, a little there, switch to the other hole, repeat" method.
I emailed with Ryan and he said to line up the cutout for the NC hump to the front of the NB hump and that would position them correctly. Yes, a bunch of bracing will have to get cut out, but the driver's side hole will be right over the turbo (not over the air intake for it) so that should help extract some heat from it as well.
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« Reply #125 on: January 20, 2016, 04:32:14 PM »

Right above the turbo? Did you move your turbo to the front of the engine somehow? I believe right above the stock turbo location is way too far back, higher pressure zone. Google miata hood pressures and you'll see that they should be way farther forward to take advantage of the low pressure areas to evacuate  air at speed. I think that's why the Singular NB hood vent trifecta works so well, I just am not fond of the look or the bracing removal...but to each his own.
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« Reply #126 on: January 20, 2016, 05:29:06 PM »

Right above the turbo? Did you move your turbo to the front of the engine somehow? I believe right above the stock turbo location is way too far back, higher pressure zone. Google miata hood pressures and you'll see that they should be way farther forward to take advantage of the low pressure areas to evacuate  air at speed. I think that's why the Singular NB hood vent trifecta works so well, I just am not fond of the look or the bracing removal...but to each his own.
My EFR is top mounted and sits more forward than a Garrett style setup would. My coldside turbo inlet is basically as far forward as the front of the valve cover.

I'm a bit worried the NC louvres will be a bit tacky on the NB, but I just didn't care for the angular looking NB louvres. To each their own indeed. Loving the progress on your car so far!
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« Reply #127 on: January 20, 2016, 06:55:00 PM »

Those NC's are huge! I did some googling and did see some nice looking NC~NB installs on some track cars, as well as a turbo set-up similar to yours running the NB's.  It just boils down to what look you like and how much bracing you wanna hack out.
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« Reply #128 on: January 28, 2016, 01:57:23 AM »

Ready for assembly. Paint came out so-so, a few contaminants and mica count ain't quite the same, depending on where you look/in what light. Could be worse, gonna be covered with splattered bugs soon so I'll live with it. Learning a fair amount about the frustrating world of body/paint this off-season...the hard way of course.

Hood all polished and ready to be scratched


Shot of the cutout and the hood bracing



Close-up of the Swiss-Cheese-ing of the brace. Painstakingly laid out and drilled with a step bit. Not quite the same wide open area as the Singulars but it should be better than nothing, and the hood bracing remains pretty much intact structuraly

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« Reply #129 on: January 28, 2016, 01:23:18 PM »

Looks good. Eagerly awaiting the results.  When are you hitting the track next to test out all the new upgrades?
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« Reply #130 on: January 28, 2016, 02:52:30 PM »

Should be track ready in @ a week, then it's up to the weather. Like to get it out at least once before Feb 15th. Going under the knife to have a hernia fixed so that will kinda put a damper on things for a bit.
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« Reply #131 on: January 29, 2016, 07:52:45 AM »

Call me if you find a date with moderately dry weather.  I need to shake '90MSM down since I haven't had a truly successful day in over a year and don't want to chase shadows again this season.
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« Reply #132 on: January 30, 2016, 07:11:45 PM »

February 13th at Pacific is target date for shakedown, as long as it's not pouring down rain.
So hood is done and installed. Paint is a pretty good match in shop light, we'll have to wait to see what it looks like in the sun. All in, I figure the cost of this project is a little north of $1k, hood; $300, Louvers; $200, Paint; $400 and @ 10 hours labor on my end. Quite happy with how it turned out. One thing about these projects is the "wow factor " of the finished product gets diluted by the number of times stuff get's mocked-up,repositioned, installed, un-installed etc.... but it's not like we can just click somewhere and order "1 Black Mica vented hood, installed please".





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« Reply #133 on: January 30, 2016, 07:24:16 PM »

Looks Great!
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« Reply #134 on: February 07, 2016, 04:27:28 AM »

Test results are in. Rainy, cold,wet day at the track. Wing works great and did not fall off or deform the trunk lid..at least up to 110mph. That's about as fast as I felt comfortable going today, given the track conditions.  Small issue with a gasket I made to go between the wing bracket and the wing I will have to address. Either/and/or vibration, moisture, or airflow caused it to work it's way loose.
 Splitter worked great and also is good to at least 110 mph. No signs of movement or deflection and no scraping on the track. There was however a whisper of a skiff boarding the ferry. Turns out the cardboard Go-Nogo test was performed with the 17x7 wheels which are a little taller than the 15x8's that are on the car now. I think a diagonal loading approach would have cleared fine, but a little too close for comfort....so i'll have to come up with a fix somehow.
 Vented hood performed nicely and netted me cooler under hood temps. i have two lcd temp displays under the hood and "popping the hood post session" temps were down a good 20 deg. No issues with the pouring rain getting in there either. They also make for a nice place to warm your hands with the hood down!
All in all, I'd call this Aero Endeavor a 97% success. A few little bugs to work out and hopefully some better weather next weekend for some more testing. It's been a fun, mentally challenging project. Someday I may actually run the hard #$$...maybe....gotta pay to play!
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