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Author Topic: maximizing what most msm owners have already.  (Read 3739 times)
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91miata
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« on: October 12, 2015, 08:03:41 PM »

Recently I am sure like a lot of us do is look at an FM or Begi,, (pick your poison) kit. and especially the FM kit is just plain AWESOME.

I been thinking about this for about a week or so, and wanted to ask you guys if I were to take a msm that had intake and turbo back exhaust, ran a hydra 2.7, and installed  the flyin Miata big flex fuel kit, injectors and DW300 fuel pump how much power could this make over the Big enchilada kit on 93 oct?


I know E85 runs significantly cooler than gasoline, I know the BE tuned well will make right at 225 to the wheels

But take the BE and run E85 how much more power are we talking? on the stock turbo and manifold..?
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Woofster
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2005 MSM Ti #1255


« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2015, 11:43:42 PM »

With 1000cc injectors, and an aggressive tune, some of the BSP guys are over 240.   afro
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Hydra Nemesis; 550 injectors; Flying Miata Full Intake Kit w/MBC (MAFless) & GFB recirculating bypass valve; Flying Miata DP; Flying Miata Full Exhaust; FMIC 28X7X2.5; Fat Cat Motorsports Elites (single adjustable) 800/500; Racing Beat 1.25" Tubular Front Sway bar w/Brace Kit and Gearheads Gauge Adjustable endlinks; OEM 14mm rear sway bar; FM Frame Rails; HDHCDDHT Rollbar; Hard Dog Harness Bar; G-Force 6-Point Pull-Down Camlock Harness; Ultrashield Rally Sport Seat; Energy Suspension Diff Bushings; Carbotech XP10/XP8 Brake Pads;  Stainless Steel Brake Lines; 15X9 6ULS (Nickel) & BF Goodrich g-Force Rival (225/45/15) street; 15X9 6ULS (Nickel) & Hoosier A6 (275/35/15) track; 15X9 6ULS (Nickel) & Hoosier H2O (225/45/15) wet track; Stewart-Warner Boost Gauge; Thompson Nautilus Air Horn; Mobile 1 0W-30; Redline MT90; Redline 75W90; BEL-tronics Pro RX65. 1/20/08 190.06 HP @ 178.36 Max Torque (Need a new Dyno run because this is inaccurate with current mods!)
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Chrisbee
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2015, 01:44:30 AM »

E85 is like running a water/meth kit, only better/easier. Both are around 110 oct. E85 is what I wanted to do on mine, but it's not available where I'm at. Cry
E85 is actually why FM doesn't sell the Hydra Mist anymore.
So really it just comes down to the tune, and how much extra power you can get out of a race gas.
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2004 TI #3021. Purchased Oct. 2014 with 56k miles.

Engine: FM 2 kit with Hydra 2.7, 700cc injectors, and full 3" exhaust.
FM Crossflow radiator w/stage 2 airflow kit.
Suspension: Fox Racing with FM sway bars.
Wheels: 15x8 Enkei PF01s running 215/50 BFG G-force Sports.
Misc: Custom Speedhut boost gauge in place of stock oil pressure gauge. Temp gauge mod. ScanGaugeII. Blue instrument panel lights. Eclipse dash vents.

Definitely a work in progress!
Tickittyboo
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2015, 05:57:19 PM »

E85 is like running a water/meth kit, only better/easier. Both are around 110 oct. E85 is what I wanted to do on mine, but it's not available where I'm at. Cry
E85 is actually why FM doesn't sell the Hydra Mist anymore.
So really it just comes down to the tune, and how much extra power you can get out of a race gas.
I just asked my tuner about installing a hydramist on my BE equipped MSM. He said he's done it before and that it doesn't show much of an increase on turbocharged cars. Says between 8-12 bhp. He says that water meth is better suited for supercharged cars.
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2004 Velocity Red MSM with Flyin' Miata's Big Enchilada tuned by Ken Hill, V-Maxx Extreme adjustable coilovers, FM front sway bar, 949 Racing End Links, Boss Frog Double Hoop Roll bar, Tr Motorsports c3m 15x9 wheels with 225 45 15 Hankook Rs3's and carbotech ax6 brake pads all around.
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