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Author Topic: Single din gauge plate and Metra radio dash kit  (Read 12689 times)
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« on: January 12, 2016, 06:36:42 PM »

I would like to pull my factory Bose system and replace it with a single DIN radio.  This will free up a single DIN slot for three gauges using a single din gauge plate.


The radio dash kit Crutchfield is selling is the Metra 99-7505.  Has anyone used this kit with a single DIN gauge plate?    I am thinking of this one from Track dog:   http://trackdogracing.com/tdrcustomgaugepanel99-05.aspx.


Also has anyone identified a single din receiver that controls the power antenna correctly,  meaning raising the antenna only when AM/FM is selected?

Crutchfield suggests that this Alpine unit will do this and it comes with a Satellite radio module as well: http://www.crutchfield.com/p_500SXM145B/Alpine-CDE-SXM145BT.html

Finally I saw an earlier post that suggested also buying the Metra reverse wiring harness: 71-7903

why would I need this? 

I look forward to everyone's input.







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2004 TI Gray MSM:  Production number: 2209 Production date: 2004-03-30
Modifications:

ECU: MSPNP-Pro, Tuned by KO Racing and Adrenaline Racing
Current output: 205 whp, 214 1b/ft torque @ 11 psi.

Roll Bar: Boss Frog Clearview with harness bar

Fuel: DW300 fuel pump, Fuel injector clinic 775cc injectors

Gauges: Autometer Ultra Lite II: boost/vac, full sweep water temp , full sweep oil temp

Engine: Flyin Miata CAI, FMII elbow with GM IAT,  Flyin Miata downpipe and exhaust, Skunk2 throttle body, FMII cold side piping.  FM oil return check valve, AWR/Mazdacomp hybrid motor mount system, Stock MSM Coils, MagnaCore plug wires

Drivetrain: MiataRoadster Short Shifter, ACT HD Clutch, ACT StreetLite Flywheel,  Energy Suspension Poly Differential mounts,

Suspension: Xida CS coilovers 550F/350R, Racing Beat Endlinks, Racing Beat 1.125 tubular front sway, factory rear sway, Bauer extended lower ball joints, R-package tie rod ends

Wheels/Tires/Brakes : Gen 4 6ULs 15x8, Yokohama AD08 205 50 15, Street Pad: Carbotech 1521, Track: Cobalt Friction XR2/XR4, Powerstop slotted rotors

Cooling: AC delete, Flyin Miata Intecooler, Flyin Miata Crossflow radiator, Spal stage II fans, 90:10 water: coolant+ water wetter, Flyin Miata Oil Cooler

Seats/harness/safety: Marrad LX1,  Schroth Profi II 6pt harness, Hans

Alpine CDE-SXM145BT CD Receiver Single DIN,  Alpine door speakers and tweeters.   Sirius/XM enabled with rear deck antenna.  

Fluids: Differential: Amsoil SVG, Transmission: Amsoil MTG, Motor: Amsoil Dominator 10W30 track,  Mobil1 0W40 Street.  WIX or Mobil 1 extended performance oil filter
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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2016, 08:24:29 PM »

HELLIONMX5 makes custom dash panels and can make a single DIN + 3 gauge panel for about the price of just that gauge panel.
http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,30085.msg339245/topicseen.html#msg339245

I have a head unit from Crutchfield and just got all of the wiring that they suggested when I put in that I had a '04 Bose Miata. I used the Scosche box they suggest but others have said it isn't completely necessary. I've never had a unit that worked the power antenna only on AM/FM. Usually people just put in a switch. I just unplugged the antenna connector in the trunk and I still get good enough reception. That varies a lot depending on your location though.
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2016, 12:28:03 AM »



Here is a pic of the track dog piece.  It works well but there was really no room for a DIN plate at all.  I simply un-clicked the metal bracket around the single DIN radio and JB welded it in place.  Then slid the radio in until it clicked into place.  The fit is really good overall and there are no rattles.  The upper portion of the climate controls creates a plastic shelf for the radio to sit on this is what the bracket is glued to.  This might be little ghetto for some, but I think simple is better a lot of the time.  Might make it harder to go back to the factory BOSE but I never will.  Also I trashed the scosche piece that came from crutch field.  It was broken upon arrival and took up way too much room behind the radio.  I don't know if I would have been able to make the gauges work with it in place.  The sound quality is better now than it was with the Bose head unit.  The Track Dog shorty antenna will take care of the antenna issue and get rid of the boat mast.


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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2016, 01:57:12 PM »

The Metra DIN adapter will not fit accommodate something like the Thompson 3 gauge panel.  I have it, and you cannot use both.

If you want 3 gauges in the DIN spot, you'll have to simply use the single DIN radio, and hold it in place with only its clip-on surround bezel, and the little metal cage that comes with the radio.  There are small tabs on the metal cage; fold them outward to hold the radio in place.  There are a few threads on this if you search.  I added double sided tape to the bottom of the radio, too.

My setup, using the Thompson 3 Gauge Din Panel, and no Metra adapter:
Gauges are Boost, Wideband, Water.

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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2016, 03:00:25 PM »

Thanks for the insights on the Metra Unit BigChill.   So the black plastic frame, surrounding  your radio that I can see in your picture, comes with the radio?  Then there is a metal cage that surrounds the back of the radio that clips into the car.  Is this correct?  I have never really looked at an aftermarket radio so I am guessing the front of the radio has some type of black frame surrounding it.  I believe the Alpine unit I am considering has a removable face plate.

   
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2004 TI Gray MSM:  Production number: 2209 Production date: 2004-03-30
Modifications:

ECU: MSPNP-Pro, Tuned by KO Racing and Adrenaline Racing
Current output: 205 whp, 214 1b/ft torque @ 11 psi.

Roll Bar: Boss Frog Clearview with harness bar

Fuel: DW300 fuel pump, Fuel injector clinic 775cc injectors

Gauges: Autometer Ultra Lite II: boost/vac, full sweep water temp , full sweep oil temp

Engine: Flyin Miata CAI, FMII elbow with GM IAT,  Flyin Miata downpipe and exhaust, Skunk2 throttle body, FMII cold side piping.  FM oil return check valve, AWR/Mazdacomp hybrid motor mount system, Stock MSM Coils, MagnaCore plug wires

Drivetrain: MiataRoadster Short Shifter, ACT HD Clutch, ACT StreetLite Flywheel,  Energy Suspension Poly Differential mounts,

Suspension: Xida CS coilovers 550F/350R, Racing Beat Endlinks, Racing Beat 1.125 tubular front sway, factory rear sway, Bauer extended lower ball joints, R-package tie rod ends

Wheels/Tires/Brakes : Gen 4 6ULs 15x8, Yokohama AD08 205 50 15, Street Pad: Carbotech 1521, Track: Cobalt Friction XR2/XR4, Powerstop slotted rotors

Cooling: AC delete, Flyin Miata Intecooler, Flyin Miata Crossflow radiator, Spal stage II fans, 90:10 water: coolant+ water wetter, Flyin Miata Oil Cooler

Seats/harness/safety: Marrad LX1,  Schroth Profi II 6pt harness, Hans

Alpine CDE-SXM145BT CD Receiver Single DIN,  Alpine door speakers and tweeters.   Sirius/XM enabled with rear deck antenna.  

Fluids: Differential: Amsoil SVG, Transmission: Amsoil MTG, Motor: Amsoil Dominator 10W30 track,  Mobil1 0W40 Street.  WIX or Mobil 1 extended performance oil filter
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2016, 05:21:26 PM »

Over the numerous times I've revised my radio and gauge setup on the center console I've never actually properly secured the radio. The few mounting plates I've used like Hellion's do enough to hold my single din in place and then I just put some styrofoam underneath to support the weight of the radio. Not the most robust way of doing it, but it works and never jiggled or came loose on me.
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2016, 05:36:55 PM »

Thanks for the insights on the Metra Unit BigChill.   So the black plastic frame, surrounding  your radio that I can see in your picture, comes with the radio?  Then there is a metal cage that surrounds the back of the radio that clips into the car.  Is this correct?  I have never really looked at an aftermarket radio so I am guessing the front of the radio has some type of black frame surrounding it.  I believe the Alpine unit I am considering has a removable face plate.
   

You are correct.  Even using both, it's a very imperfect solution, but I've found it sufficient.  Like myself and Maduh, you could also add a small, 1/4" thick piece of rubber, double-sided tape, or even weatherstripping beneath the Radio.  I used adhesive weatherstripping under mine.
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