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« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2016, 05:47:40 AM »


6 hours if you know what you're doing and have a rattle gun. Fronts take the longest.

That's pretty high. I've done front and rear in a little over 2 hours before.

The rears are pretty easy but it is annoying to get to the nuts for the top of the shocks. The drivers side gets annoying with the fuel filler in the way but that can actually be unbolted and moved out of the way.
Keith's book quotes 6 hours and I reckon that's about right for a guy doing it on his own using just stands - there always seems to be a show stopper/slower of some form.

If the long bolts come out easily that saves a LOT of time but more often than not I've found the port side harder to remove for some reason. Using the scissor jack under the control arm can help since it takes the weight off the bolt but sometimes you need to use punches to help persuade the long bolt out.

Also, if you have height adjustable shocks, you can spend a lot of time jacking the car up and down, adjusting the shocks to get them right (Hint: do one side until you're happy, then measure the distance between the top and bottom collars and set the other side the same). The shocks will settle over the next couple of days anyway so you'll end up "dicking about" with the height again so don't bother spending too much time getting them perfect initially like I did.
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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2016, 07:51:40 PM »

I just ordered the V-Maxx shocks, but bushings are back ordered at FM so I'll try to pick up some elsewhere. Regarding the upper shock-mount bolts in the rear, I don't think I'll need to touch those if I use the method jacking up the control arm.  Looks like all I need to remove in the rear are the sway bar link, lower shock mount, ABS sensor and the nut on top of the shock.  I once saw a video that said you have to also remove the sway bar mount, so I'll see when I get in there.



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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2016, 09:02:59 PM »

This how-to details what all you need to do.
http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/index.php/topic,25152.0.html
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2016, 02:21:33 AM »

Thanks,

I went over your post in the archives earlier and it was a big help.






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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2016, 01:37:08 AM »

Shocks are in and I'm fiddling with ride height now.  I haven't driven it much but I do notice that it rolls over bumps instead of seeming to slam into them.
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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2016, 03:43:23 AM »

Got some more miles in today.  Significant improvement, no question.  Body roll doesn't seem to have increased.  Suspension still pleasantly firm but sucks up the bumps now instead of slamming into them.
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2016, 08:00:15 PM »

It's scheduled for alignment tomorrow.  I tried to get to 13.5 rear and 13 front, but at 13.5 the helper springs in the rear are fully compressed, so I guess I'll have to go at least an inch lower all around.  Some of the vicious mall speed bumps around here are already a problem but I don't see much choice.


 
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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2016, 11:44:53 PM »

The helper springs usually are fully compressed.  Lowering the ride height isn't going to change that unless you lower it so far you're sitting on the bump stops, which you don't want to do.
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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2016, 11:49:14 PM »

It's scheduled for alignment tomorrow.  I tried to get to 13.5 rear and 13 front, but at 13.5 the helper springs in the rear are fully compressed, so I guess I'll have to go at least an inch lower all around.  Some of the vicious mall speed bumps around here are already a problem but I don't see much choice.

This makes no sense at all   shockeyes
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« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2016, 12:31:34 AM »

I'm at about 12.75" in the rear with helper springs. My helpers are only about 10 lb springs and are only there to keep the main spring seated against the top hat when I jack up the car. I could easily drop the rear another 2" or more but I have no interest in going very low. If you have adjustable spring perches, you should be able to go lower if you want.
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« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2016, 01:55:43 AM »

It's scheduled for alignment tomorrow.  I tried to get to 13.5 rear and 13 front, but at 13.5 the helper springs in the rear are fully compressed, so I guess I'll have to go at least an inch lower all around.  Some of the vicious mall speed bumps around here are already a problem but I don't see much choice.

This makes no sense at all   shockeyes

Where am I wrong?

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« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2016, 02:02:50 AM »

You say you can't get to 13.5" but yet you want to go lower.

Wait, do you mnean you wanted to go higher to avoid the helper springs from being compressed??  They are going to be compressed until the springs are unloaded.  the helper springs are designed to help keep the springs seated when the suspension is unloaded and them being compressed when loaded is fine.
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« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2016, 02:11:12 AM »

No, I got it to 13.5 and 13, but I was concerned that the helper springs were effectively only spacers at that point because they were fully compressed.  I just dropped it to 12.5 and 12 and now the helper springs are showing some space between the coils.  I've never had a setup with helper springs, so I'm not entirely sure how they're supposed to function, but it didn't look right to me to have them bound like that.


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« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2016, 02:27:10 AM »

To clarify, the helper springs were squeezed flat with the suspension unweighted and a perch setting that got me to 13.5.
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« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2016, 03:29:04 AM »

Did anyone else find it too much longer than expected to loosen the bolts for the sway bar mount on the passenger side?  On my car the inter cooler pipe gave me very little arc to twist the wrench.
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