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Author Topic: FM Hot Air intake fix with $130 K&N Apollo  (Read 3765 times)
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joe.voss.18
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« on: September 24, 2016, 02:17:25 AM »

Ok. So this happened tonight.  Turned my FM HOT air intake into a K&N Cool air intake.  Hose goes into the inner fender area. Before and after photos.

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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2016, 05:48:54 AM »

Neato!
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2016, 08:05:57 PM »

What did you have to buy?  Is there a hose for the air intake in the fender?
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2016, 08:44:11 PM »

K&n Apollo intake.  $130  http://www.knfilters.com/mobile/mProduct.aspx?prod=RC-5052AB&gclid=Cj0KEQjwpZO_BRDym6K_nMye7cEBEiQAVA7RaAOf

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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2016, 08:44:28 PM »



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joe.voss.18
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2016, 08:44:45 PM »

Comes with hose.

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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2016, 10:05:17 PM »

Slick!  How did you secure the relays?  I can sort of see them under the edge of the fender.
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2016, 10:18:09 PM »

I bolted one to the fender and then zip-tied the other two to it

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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2016, 06:40:09 PM »

Would it be possible to get the hose down to the bumper area and replace a fog light with the air inlet hose? Or maybe get it in the front opening? These would give a slight ram air effect, although I'm not sure how much benefit that would give before the turbo. Thoughts?
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2016, 06:55:08 PM »

Putting it in a fog light opening would seem to make it a great place for it to ingest water when you went through a puddle.
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2016, 07:34:53 PM »

What SMR wrote.

I have a friend that put a CAI on his Mazda 6 with the inlet low in the front fender, but probably not as low as an MSM foglight. His son managed to destroy the engine (hydro locked) by driving through a deep puddle.
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2016, 10:45:39 PM »

I don't know if there is room for it but there is such thing as a cold air intake bypass valve that basically has flaps that open up under enough vacuum such as the increased vacuum if you ingest water. I had one on my R32 back in the day. I don't know if this is the brand I had but the concept is the same

https://www.amazon.com/AEM-20-403S-Air-Bypass-Valve/dp/B000CFQF5W/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2016, 05:47:00 AM »

Why go to all that trouble for an inferior intake location?
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3.63 ring & pinion FM content: Blouch compressor mod, FM-Link, i/c & no-MAF intake.   BEGi: Stainless SGDP w/ metal core performance cat.   Custom stuff: Compressor clocked downward w/ new i/c pipe, big radius throttle elbow, 2.5" mid-pipe w/ Hushpower II, dual 2" axle-back w/ open Supertrapps, Toyota 4 pc cop ignition

245.2 whp on default FM-Link maps (with OEM midpipe)
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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2016, 03:16:58 PM »

joe.voss -

In another thread you mentioned that you now know that the fender gets heat-soaked. With the hot-side intercooler pipe running right through that area, I don't find that particularly surprising. Do you still feel the Apollo is tremendously superior?

Also, did you capture post-intercooler intake air temps for both the FM and the Apollo? That's the temp that matters. With my FM "Hot Air" Intake AND the Blouch compressor upgrade running to 15 psi (which elevates temps quite a lot more than a stock IHI), I usually run just a few degrees over ambient after the intercooler.
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'05 running gear + '95 body
3.63 ring & pinion FM content: Blouch compressor mod, FM-Link, i/c & no-MAF intake.   BEGi: Stainless SGDP w/ metal core performance cat.   Custom stuff: Compressor clocked downward w/ new i/c pipe, big radius throttle elbow, 2.5" mid-pipe w/ Hushpower II, dual 2" axle-back w/ open Supertrapps, Toyota 4 pc cop ignition

245.2 whp on default FM-Link maps (with OEM midpipe)
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2016, 02:14:34 AM »

I have the same blouch turbo with the BE and I can't seem to keep my temps below 90° on a wot run with ambient temps in the 70°. My average post intercooler temp is 110° on a 80° day. In stop and go traffic on a hot summer day the temps get ridiculous. I should have this k&n setup tomorrow and I will log temps from both. The temperatures have really started cooling off here in GA and ithe makes the world of difference. Hopefully I can show some differences between the intakes.
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