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« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2009, 02:40:45 PM »

I'm just thinking about what a pain in the rear it's going to be come smog time that's all. It seems as though down here in sunny CA they're anti-Miata when it comes to emissions testing.

I'm desperatly trying to find ways to keep the smog Nazi's happy but not have to get a used S2000, Boxster S or Vette in order to get some more get up and go on my 45 mile each way comute. A boy needs more fun on the freeway at 5am when there's no traffic.  afro

Go morning Mr Ociffer I wuz only doing 68, honest  angel1

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Tell me about the police and CARB...bleh...  >.<  I'll have to worry about smog for my 2010 sticker...

Yea, you're smog legal  rolleyes  laugh
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« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2009, 03:59:20 PM »

Does the downpipe look very similar to stock? I could deal with swapping the intake kit and last half of the exhaust but I know from experience with my Cali-smog equiped 99 Sport that downpipes are just a pain in the ass to remove and the studs in the bottom of the first cat are a pain to replace.


The MSM exhaust is configured differently than that of a 1999 Sport. The MSM downpipe is polished stainless, which doesn't look much like the stock unit at all. However, unless you're under the car, it's pretty much impossible to see. I would recommend trying to lay your eyes upon your stock unit.
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« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2009, 07:54:58 PM »

It seems as though down here in sunny CA they're anti-Miata when it comes to emissions testing. I've always have to take my 94 and 99 miatas to the Test Only places for full visual and indepth test. Not just a quick peek under the hook and a tester up the tailpipe - they check timing and everything!

Our '04 MSM is due for its first test this coming spring (you get to skip the first bi-annual test on new cars).  I'll be interested to see if they require it go to a Test Only station.

Either way, won't matter to me because I've been using a Test Only station for my other vehicles the past few years, and the guy there is *very* cool, if you know what I mean  afro

After completing that test, and assuming I have employment firmed up by then, I'll be looking at doing a complete intake and exhaust on it  thumup
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« Reply #63 on: April 16, 2009, 08:53:57 PM »

Does the downpipe look very similar to stock? I could deal with swapping the intake kit and last half of the exhaust but I know from experience with my Cali-smog equiped 99 Sport that downpipes are just a pain in the ass to remove and the studs in the bottom of the first cat are a pain to replace.


The MSM exhaust is configured differently than that of a 1999 Sport. The MSM downpipe is polished stainless, which doesn't look much like the stock unit at all. However, unless you're under the car, it's pretty much impossible to see. I would recommend trying to lay your eyes upon your stock unit.

I don't get it....
In CA, do they have a problem with mods EVEN if it passes the smog tests? They don't allow ANY mods out there?

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« Reply #64 on: April 16, 2009, 08:56:34 PM »

Does the downpipe look very similar to stock? I could deal with swapping the intake kit and last half of the exhaust but I know from experience with my Cali-smog equiped 99 Sport that downpipes are just a pain in the ass to remove and the studs in the bottom of the first cat are a pain to replace.


The MSM exhaust is configured differently than that of a 1999 Sport. The MSM downpipe is polished stainless, which doesn't look much like the stock unit at all. However, unless you're under the car, it's pretty much impossible to see. I would recommend trying to lay your eyes upon your stock unit.


I don't get it....
In CA, do they have a problem with mods EVEN if it passes the smog tests? They don't allow ANY mods out there?

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Only if the mod is CARB legal then it is allowed.
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« Reply #65 on: April 16, 2009, 09:17:55 PM »

I don't get it....
In CA, do they have a problem with mods EVEN if it passes the smog tests? They don't allow ANY mods out there?
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If the mod is emissions related, then it has to be approved by the CA Air Resources Board.  It's not a free process to obtain this approval so not all manufacturers bother to obtain it.  But many intakes and headers have CARB approval (Executive Order #).

The emissions test is visual and sniffer.  The sniffer part is hard to tinker with but the visual allows some wiggle room.  Depends on who you get...
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« Reply #66 on: April 16, 2009, 09:20:47 PM »

After completing that test, and assuming I have employment firmed up by then, I'll be looking at doing a complete intake and exhaust on it  thumup

Well, turns out we get to skip our *2nd* bi-annual test now, too.  We just have to pay an extra fee similar to what it would have cost to get a smog check done.

So we're free and clear for 2 more years, but unfortunately my employment is still not shored up 100% so my planned mods are on hold right now  Sad
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« Reply #67 on: April 16, 2009, 09:42:01 PM »





  Well for me the visual is the one that gets most people because when they see something aftermarket and no CARB sticker they will not even start the test.  You already failed right there.
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« Reply #68 on: July 22, 2009, 01:30:14 AM »

Keith,
what will it cost to do the upgrade to my 2005 MSM. If I drop it in your facility.
I still want the car to look stock. What i mean i do not want it to be obvious that  mods were done to it and how many brake horse power will i gain from the 178HP?
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« Reply #69 on: July 22, 2009, 01:31:47 AM »

Keith's on vacation.  You'd be best calling FM.
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« Reply #70 on: July 22, 2009, 04:52:07 AM »

I'm back now, actually.

Anthony, what is "the upgrade"? We have quite a range. The cost will obviously depend on just what you want done. Power gains will be similarly affected, as will the visibility of what's been done. Larry's right, give us a call and we can give you good answers.
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« Reply #71 on: July 22, 2009, 07:44:43 PM »

You know, Kieth, he wants "the upgrade" (2.0 stroker with forged internals + GT3071 + 3" exhaust + Hydra + ......)   cheesy
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« Reply #72 on: April 03, 2010, 06:38:00 AM »

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« Reply #73 on: May 29, 2011, 10:26:45 AM »

whats the increase in power with the Downpipe/catalytic converter for Mazdaspeed MX-5? as on the website you say  "When combined with our Mazdaspeed exhaust.... We measured a 23 hp and 26 lb-ft increase" reason i ask is i dont want to change the muffler as it'll make the car loud, but i am after a tad more power.
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« Reply #74 on: May 29, 2011, 03:16:18 PM »

whats the increase in power with the Downpipe/catalytic converter for Mazdaspeed MX-5? as on the website you say  "When combined with our Mazdaspeed exhaust.... We measured a 23 hp and 26 lb-ft increase" reason i ask is i dont want to change the muffler as it'll make the car loud, but i am after a tad more power.

dp alone will also make the car louder.   DP is responsible for most of those gains, I would think the catback is only responsible for 1-5whp at most.
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